帕兰蒂尔为自己在“杀伤链”中的作用辩护:“我们为此感到自豪”
Palantir defends its role in the kill chain: "We are proud of that"

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## Palantir 的扩张与坚定立场 在最近的 AIPCon 上,Palantir 展示了其数据分析平台在各个领域的应用——从军事行动和造船到医疗保健和航空,所有这些都围绕一个中心主题:连接数据以实现更快、更高效的决策。 首席执行官 Alex Karp 大胆捍卫了 Palantir 参与“致命”军事行动,表示该公司“非常、非常自豪”地支持作战人员并最大限度地减少己方伤亡,即使这意味着对手会遭受损失。 尽管承认人工智能的潜在危险和社会颠覆——特别是对受过教育的选民的经济状况产生影响,Karp 强调 Palantir 致力于提供解决方案,而不是争论其使用。演示包括用于军事目标定位的“Maven 项目”、用于海军生产的“ShipOS”以及简化医院流程和测量师安排的平台。 会议强调了 Palantir 成为关键基础设施提供商的雄心,充当医疗保健领域的“数据路由器”,并提供全面的运营系统。该公司普遍使用《指环王》的意象,强调了其通过数据驱动的洞察力揭示“所有秘密”的承诺和潜在威胁。

## Palantir 与伦理问题 - Hacker News 讨论总结 一场 Hacker News 讨论围绕 Palantir 为军事和情报行动提供数据和技术的作用展开,起因是 Heise.de 的一篇文章。核心争论集中在 Palantir 的工作伦理上,尤其是在 CEO Alex Karp 的领导下。 许多评论者表达了强烈的不满,一些人将 Karp 贴上不道德的标签,并将其自我辩解比作反派角色。担忧集中在公司对数据的使用上——包括可能非法获取的广告数据——以及其参与黎巴嫩和巴勒斯坦等冲突。 另一些人则为 Palantir 辩护,认为其工作与制造武器没有区别,并且其技术对国家安全至关重要。一些人批评他们认为缺乏对那些认为其工作是正当化的观点缺乏同情心。 一个关键的争论点是缺乏问责制以及政府决策和公司利益之间的界限模糊,尤其是在利润动机涉及生死攸关的情况下。这场讨论凸显了人们在道德、民族主义以及技术在战争中作用等方面的观点上的深刻分歧。
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Who kills more efficiently, who heals more efficiently? Palantir wants to have the answer to everything, the data analysis company made clear at its Artificial Intelligence Platform Conference (AIPCon). In Tolkien aesthetics, with intertwined rings and the red glowing lettering “There are no secrets” – a promise that can be perceived as a threat by competitors, opponents or critics. CEO Alex Karp openly defended his company's role in deadly military operations – on the same stage where hospitals presented their AI-supported patient management and a rodeo organizer presented their bull rider analytics. There was no sign of hesitation, nor of independently verifiable evidence for the success figures presented. Customers from the military, industry and healthcare sector praised their own Palantir projects on stage.

“You'll see that there's not a single case where an operation worked, meaning it was lethal, the adversary was decimated, and there was a minimum amount of innocent lives lost that did not involve software, and we're in every single one of those fights,” said Karp, Palantir documents partnerships and deployments in Ukraine, the US military, and Israel; in a written response to the UN Special Rapporteur (PDF), however, the company states that while it supports Israel, it is not involved in the “Gospel” or “Lavender” systems. “You can be on any side of the issue, but if you're expecting us to not support war fighters when they're in battle, you got the wrong company. And we at Palantir support warfighters. And once the war starts, we're not interested in debating how we're supporting them. We are very, very proud to have our role in making sure that American men and women come home safe and happy and proud of what they're doing. And that sometimes means that people on the other side don't go home. And we are very proud of that,” Karp said. Employees might have different opinions on this issue, but once a war has begun, Palantir does not want to debate how it supports soldiers in action.

In a CNBC interview on the sidelines of AIPCon, Karp described AI as dangerous. “My general bias on AI is it is dangerous”. He said AI will significantly shift the economic and thus also the political power balance in Western societies. In his view, highly educated, often female voters who predominantly support the Democrats, are often particularly affected. At the same time, the technology will strengthen the economic power of people in vocational training and from the working class. This upheaval will affect every area of society, Karp said. Anyone who believes that such a shift in economic and political power will remain without consequences is misjudging the situation. At the same time, he raised the question of how this development can be communicated to those who, from their perspective, will have worse and less interesting jobs in the future. “Project Maven” in particular demonstrated at the conference how AI influences power relations.

Maven is a central example of Palantir's military use. The Pentagon established the project in 2017 as the “Algorithmic Warfare Cross-Functional Team”. It began with computer vision models that were intended to automatically evaluate reconnaissance and drone images to identify vehicles and people. Cameron Stanley described at the conference the path from these early image recognition models to today's Maven Smart System. Instead of eight or nine different systems between which analysts manually moved information back and forth, there is now a single interface. Officially, Palantir describes the system as a platform that connects data, sensor feeds, software, and algorithms, thus ensuring faster situational awareness, logistics, fire control, and targeting processes. The claim is the same as Stanley demonstrated on stage: to bring together recognition, evaluation, and action in one environment.

Software is also increasingly being used in the military supply chain. The US Navy is working with Palantir on an AI-powered operating system for shipbuilding called ShipOS, which is intended to coordinate production processes, supply chains, and maintenance. Vice Admiral Seiko Okano presented the system at the conference. “We're done waiting for purpose-built government solutions when the best technology in the world is already proven in this room,” she said. Here, too, the basic idea formulated by Karp earlier becomes visible: the same logic with which Palantir wants to accelerate military operations is also intended to control shipbuilding and procurement. The collaboration with Airbus is similar: According to the news agency AFP, Palantir and Airbus have extended their strategic partnership with a multi-year contract. Airbus will continue to use Palantir for “Skywise”, an open data platform for civil aviation that is intended to support planning, supply chain management, flight operations, and aircraft production.

In addition to applications for military and police use, hospitals and healthcare organizations presented applications at AIPCon – partly in embedded video sequences – that use the same platform to coordinate patients and accelerate hospital processes. These include Tampa General Hospital in Florida and TeleTracking. Tampa General Hospital has been working with Palantir on networked care management since 2021. TeleTracking and Palantir are also jointly driving AI-powered hospital management. The “Care Progression Navigator” is intended to help capture the status of all patients in the hospital before clinical discussions. According to a representative, this preparation previously took up to one and a half hours per shift. With the new system, all relevant information is available in two seconds. The platform supports patient flow, bed management, and operational decisions.

The Joint Commission, an independent non-profit organization that accredits more than 80 percent of US hospitals according to its own statements, also uses Palantir's services. In 2025, it announced a strategic partnership with the company. William Walders, who has been the organization's IT director for a few months, described the complex deployment planning for the surveyors on stage: hundreds of doctors, clinicians, and specialists are sent to hospitals every week. Some check care quality in neonatology wards, others inspect building safety down to ventilation systems.

“It used to take us weeks to sit in a room, our scheduling team, things in their heads, things in spreadsheets.” The new system is called “Reforge” – another Lord of the Rings reference, based on the newly forged sword. With the system, planning for hundreds of surveyors now takes three minutes. A handful of Palantir employees built “Reforge” on-site, including an intern named Haley. “Haley, if you're watching, job offer still stands,” said Walders. The anecdote also raises a question that is likely relevant to many Palantir customers: What happens to such systems when these specialized teams are withdrawn? The long-term vision is even more ambitious: The Joint Commission wants to become the “healthcare data router of the country” and enable hospitals to have a real-time assessment of their accreditation status.

Another example is patient management. TeleTracking and Carilion Clinic, together with Palantir, presented a system that is intended to make the patient's journey between facilities visible. The effect was compared to “Imagine turning on air traffic control on an airport who didn't have air traffic control. That's what this is doing.” Officially, TeleTracking and Palantir describe their partnership as an attempt to integrate operational data in healthcare systems to manage capacity, patient flow, and decisions in real time.

The Lord of the Rings motif was not only present in “Reforge”. SAP COO Sebastian Steinhäuser compared the prospect of an ERP migration on stage to Frodo's journey to Mordor; in many cases, such a migration costs ten times the software license. Centrus Energy, which announced a cooperation on the occasion of AIPCon, was also among these other examples. World View presented a balloon platform that is intended to navigate autonomously over target areas for weeks using Palantir software. In another video clip at the conference, Nvidia and Dell presented a reference architecture developed in collaboration with Armada.ai for mobile, container-based AI data centers, which can be used to operate Palantir's Foundry even in remote environments such as oil platforms, mines, or Alaska.

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This article was originally published in German. It was translated with technical assistance and editorially reviewed before publication.

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