群体谴责虚假儿童掠夺指控,却称批评者为恐怖分子。
Flock Condemns False Child Predator Allegations, Yet Calls Critics Terrorists

原始链接: https://ipvm.com/reports/flock-allegations-critics

Flock Safety正面临越来越多的公众和法律压力,多座城市已取消合同,并有多起诉讼,源于对其数据访问 practices 的担忧。最近的争议涉及Flock员工访问摄像头画面——包括犹太社区中心内部画面,这与该公司“没有员工监控客户录像”的说法相矛盾。 调查显示,访问犹太社区中心画面没有恶意意图,但此事件引发了愤怒,一些人指责员工存在掠夺行为——IPVM认为这些指控是虚假和有害的。然而,Flock过去激进攻击隐私倡导者,甚至将其称为“恐怖分子”并指责他们纵容罪犯,使得情况更加复杂。 Flock有权谴责对其员工的个人攻击,但批评人士指出,鉴于该公司自身煽动性的言论,这种做法缺乏一致性。这种不断升级的负面情绪正在影响Flock的员工队伍,使其社区参与和招聘变得困难。专家建议改变语气,因为坚持目前这种对抗性的做法可能会使情况恶化。

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原文

Flock is under intense pressure. Its own Chief Legal Officer publicly acknowledged that "every single day, I read a headline from somewhere in the country" about residents raising concerns. Dozens of cities have canceled or rejected contracts. Lobbying spending has skyrocketed. Two class action lawsuits are active. A new major lawsuit was filed this week. None of it is abating.

This week, Flock published a blog post defending employees who accessed cameras at the Marcus Jewish Community Center in Dunwoody, Georgia, calling allegations of inappropriate conduct "false" and warning that:

Accusing someone of spying on children is not a policy disagreement; it is a life-altering allegation.

Executive Summary

IPVM concurs with Flock on the specific allegation: there is no evidence that any employee accessed those cameras for malicious purposes related to children. Residents who called Flock employees child molesters on social media went beyond legitimate criticism into territory that is false and harmful, and those individuals should apologize.

At the same time, Flock's CEO has spent years attacking privacy advocates, calling them terrorists and accusing critics of wanting to "normalize lawlessness." Flock's blog post argues that false, defamatory allegations against individuals cause real harm and should not be made, a standard the company has not applied to its own rhetoric. Consistency matters. This incident will likely harden Flock's adversarial posture further, which would be the wrong response to a situation Flock exacerbated.

The accelerating negativity surrounding Flock, attacks on individual employees, on installers, on the company broadly, creates a cumulative burden. Many employees genuinely believe in the mission, but the sustained pressure of this kind wears people down and threatens the company's ability to grow.

What Actually Happened

As IPVM documented earlier this week, Dunwoody's mayor acknowledged Flock had been in "places they should not be" and confirmed Flock apologized to the JCC. Local resident Jason Hunyar had obtained event logs through a FOIA request showing 8 Flock sales employees accessed live and recorded feeds on Dunwoody's network more than 480 times, including cameras inside the JCC's gymnastics room, a pool, parks, playgrounds, and libraries. This directly contradicted Flock's own public FAQ, which stated: "Nobody from Flock Safety is accessing or monitoring your footage." The pledge was violated. That is a documented fact, separate from any question of intent.

IPVM Concurs: The Predator Allegations Are False

There is no evidence of malicious intent. The access was a sales demo, not predatory behavior. The "little Epstein" language at Dunwoody city council meetings and social media posts naming individual employees as child molesters is false and harmful. Those who made these allegations should apologize to the Flock employees they named.

For some of the examples of such comments on social media, see:

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Similarly, see another commenter explicitly calling out Flock's employees involved in this Dunwoody controversy in a comment under Flock's YouTube video (IPVM has redacted the names of the individuals referenced).

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Flock is even engaging directly with social media commenters, responding to an anonymous user with an opioid drug reference as their handle "LordofDarvocet" (e.g., see Flock's response below to a person who currently has 15 followers on X):

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Impact on Employees

Flock's field staff, installers, and sales employees absorb the front-line consequences of the company's growing opposition. When individual names appear in FOIA requests, social media posts, or city council confrontations, the personal cost is real. Even employees who took the job because they genuinely believe in reducing crime are not insulated from the cumulative weight of week after week of public hostility.

This is a material headwind for Flock. A company that depends on field staff engaging communities directly cannot afford employees who become reluctant to put themselves forward. Executives have the most to lose financially and are generally better positioned to withstand the pressure. The people who bear the disproportionate cost are the ones in the field, and sustained pressure on that layer of the workforce makes recruitment, retention, and community engagement meaningfully harder.

The Consistency Problem

That environment reflects a rhetorical posture that Flock's own leadership helped create.

Flock's blog post argues that random internet commenters' allegations are "life-altering." By that same standard, what should privacy advocates feel when Flock's billionaire CEO, backed by the country's most influential investors, publicly labels them terrorists?

CEO Garrett Langley has called privacy advocacy group Deflock a "terroristic organization" and said it is "closer to Antifa than anything else." He has accused critics of wanting to "normalize lawlessness" and framed community opposition as a coordinated attack by activists trying to "let murderers go free." The ACLU called that posture "simplistic, juvenile, and ultimately authoritarian." Flock's chief lawyer falsely alleged that civil liberties groups would have blocked LPR evidence in the Brown University shooting case, a position those groups had never taken.

Calling privacy advocates terrorists is not a policy argument. It is an attempt to delegitimize critics by associating them with violence. Flock now objects, correctly, to the same tactic being used against its own employees. The objection would carry more weight if the company had not embraced it.

The Consequence

When a company frames critics as criminal sympathizers and opposition groups as a terrorist organization, it should not be surprised when the opposition responds in kind. The predator allegations are wrong. They are also, in part, a product of the rhetorical environment Flock helped build.

The temptation after this week will be to escalate. But Flock is not losing this fight because it has been too conciliatory. It is losing ground because the rhetorical environment it helped build has now turned on it. More of the same is not a strategy.

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