在德国创办公司:花费9600欧元,耗时152天,至今仍无法开具发票
Founding a company in Germany: €9600, 152 days and I still can't send an invoice

原始链接: https://paolino.me/founding-a-company-in-germany/

在德国创业对作者而言是一场耗时五个月的艰辛折磨。尽管投入了超过 9600 欧元的法律、公证和行政费用,并冻结了 2000 欧元的注册资本,但这位创始人至今仍无法开出一张发票。 这个过程是一座官僚迷宫,充斥着强制预约、手写信函以及陈旧的硬性规定,例如那些将“胡乱拼凑的名称”置于品牌清晰度之上的限制性命名准则。虽然政府将这些障碍美化为“信任”与安全措施,但现实却是一个为创业者制造了极大阻碍,却无法真正防范欺诈(如 Wirecard 丑闻)的系统。 由于受到之前项目高额退出税的掣肘,作者认为德国复杂且费用高昂的注册流程——例如为了避免双重征税或个人责任而必须采取“UG & Co. KG”等架构——正在积极地扼杀创业雄心。相比爱沙尼亚或英国等提供数字化精简注册流程的国家,德国仍深陷于缓慢、手动的操作中。归根结底,作者指出了一个悖论:政府通过无休止的间接成本透支了新企业的潜力,却让创始人实际上无法创造任何收入。

最近的一场 Hacker News 讨论凸显了在德国创业的困境。起因是一位创始人的发帖,他花费了 9600 欧元并耗时五个多月在官僚机构中奔波,至今仍无法开具发票。 讨论区中出现了截然不同的观点。批评者认为,该作者选择了过于复杂的法律结构(GmbH & Co. KG),对于可预见的行政障碍“抱怨”过多;他们建议,如果愿意接受其他权衡,完全可以选择个体经营或标准的 GmbH 等更简单、快捷的方案。 相反,许多参与者为该作者辩护,称德国臭名昭著的“官僚主义”与波兰、英国甚至瑞典、荷兰等其他欧盟国家相比,是巨大的准入门槛。讨论还触及了创始人搬迁时面临的“离境税”负担,以及在处理欧洲各地法律差异时的艰难。归根结底,这场辩论强调了一个普遍的看法:欧洲创业环境依然分散,监管带来的阻力因司法管辖区和企业实体复杂程度的不同而存在巨大差异。
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原文

I started founding my second company in Germany in late January. It is now late June.

In that time, the state, two courts, a notary, a law firm, a tax firm, and software vendors have all found a way to bill me. Every single one of them, on time.

I have spent more than 9,600 euros to start a company: a little over 7,600 in fees and bills, plus 2,000 in share capital frozen in an account I am not allowed to touch. And after five months, here is what I have to show for it:

I have not been able to send a single invoice of my own.

Not one.

The work is happening. The clients are real. The one thing the state exists to let me do, bill them cleanly, is the one thing I still can’t.

The timeline

  1. 23 Jan

    First call with a law firm to set up the company. The clock and the hourly billing start.

  2. 5 Feb

    I sign the mandate and send my ID. Drafting begins.

  3. about 1 month of drafting
  4. 6 Mar

    Incorporation documents ready.

  5. 17 Mar

    Documents approved. The hunt for a notary begins.

  6. 7 days for the appointment
  7. 24 Mar

    Notary in Berlin reads the deeds aloud and certifies that I am who I say I am.

    €1,575.24Notary fees

  8. 25 Mar

    I pay in €2,000.00 of share capital. Money I cannot touch; it has to stay there.

    €2,000.00Locked, not a fee

  9. 26 Mar

    The register court demands a fee advance.

    €300.00Court advance

  10. 17 days after the notary
  11. 10 Apr

    First company entered in the commercial register.

  12. 1 week more
  13. 17 Apr

    Second company entered.

    €260.00Register, 200 + 60

  14. 20 Apr

    I ask the firm I already pay to handle the tax registration too.

  15. 2.5 weeks just to start
  16. 6 May

    Before the tax work can begin, a fresh engagement is required: proposal, power of attorney, ID checks, per company.

    €630.00Tax registration quote

  17. 28 May

    The incorporation legal bill lands.

    €4,462.50Legal fees

  18. 29 May

    Tax questionnaires submitted. I request standard VAT and a VAT ID, urgently.

  19. 3 Jun

    First bill from the accounting software.

    €426.97Accounting software

  20. 9 Jun

    I am told the VAT ID will arrive by post. A letter.

  21. 24 Jun, today

    Seven weeks since the tax firm, almost four weeks since the questionnaires. No VAT ID. No invoice sent.

Billed by everyone else€7,654.71

Share capital I cannot touch€2,000.00

Total gone€9,654.71

Invoices I have managed to send0

Everyone in this story could invoice me. I am the only one who can’t invoice anyone.

“But you can invoice your German clients”

The clients abroad need a VAT ID for reverse charge, and that is exactly the one I am still waiting for. My German clients I could bill today. But a domestic invoice now would have to be reissued the moment the VAT ID arrives. Bill now, bill again later, for no reason. So those wait too.

This should have been a web form

Fill it in, pay a fee, get your company and your VAT ID in a week. Estonia does it. The UK registers a company in a day, online, for the price of a dinner. There is no law of nature that says incorporation has to take five months and arrive by post.

Germany has built a process that chains one dependency to the next, puts a fee on each, and lets a founder run up legal bills, notary bills, court fees, tax retainers, and software subscriptions on zero revenue, all before granting the one permission a company exists for: the right to send an invoice.

If you ask the government, the reason is trust: the notary, the capital, the registers, the endless checks, all there to keep bad actors out. This is the same machine that did not catch Wirecard, a two-billion-euro scam. It does, somehow, generate enough friction to scare new founders out of the country.

And no, I could not just leave instead. My first company, Freshflow, is valuable enough that walking out of Germany would trigger a massive six-figure exit tax, on gains I have not even realised, purely for the privilege of leaving. But that is a story for another post.

This is a country taxing ambition through the roof before you’ve earned a cent, then wondering why the ambitious leave.

Bonus round: my company name was “too generic”

Have you heard of Apple? A piece of fruit, and one of the most valuable brands ever built. That name would never have been approved in Germany.

Naming a company is hard. It is the word everyone who touches your work will remember. After months of turning it over, I found one I could stand behind, a name that says what I believe software should be. (That belief will be its own post, soon.) Distinctive, I thought. The kind of name you do not forget.

Plenty.

“No,” said the lawyer. German company names have to be distinctive, and “Plenty” is a plain English word. Berlin would reject it.

“Plenty Group?” Two plain words. “Plenty Labs?” “Labs” is a plain word too. “Plenty.is?” A generic word with a domain on the end is still a generic word, and there was case law to prove it.

The suggestions were worse: stick my surname on the front, Paolino Plenty Labs. Or a prefix, PG Plenty Germany. Or make up a fantasy word.

Is Plenty. Its Plenty. IsPlenty. ItsPlenty. Rejected, all of it.

Fine. They wanted a meaningless word; I gave them one. Plenty Labs, minus the space: PlentyLabs.

Approved.

A name that started out of spite. Weeks of correspondence, resolved by removing a space. A rule that does not reward clarity. It rewards nonsense.

Postscript: why a UG and Co. KG, two companies?

Why does a one-person business need two companies? Because the simple version is worse, and because I am building it into something bigger.

The simplest setup is a sole proprietorship. Thirty euros, no capital, done in an afternoon. It also makes me personally liable for everything. A client sues? They are not suing a company. They are suing me. My savings, my apartment, my name.

So I wanted real limited liability, which means a company. And for one person, the cleanest company turns out not to be one company. It is a KG, a partnership that does the work, with a tiny UG standing in as the partner that carries the liability. Strange, but standard. You probably have seen “GmbH & Co. KG” on German companies a hundred times without wondering why. This is why.

It is taxed the sane way, too. The partnership’s profit is taxed once, as my income, since I am the one who ends up with it. A plain UG would tax the company first, then tax me again when I paid myself.

Why a UG and not the famous GmbH? A GmbH wants 25,000 euros sitting in a bank account before it is allowed to exist. The UG lets you start with almost nothing, on one condition: lock away a quarter of every year’s profit until the reserve reaches 25,000, then convert to a GmbH. The 25,000 does not go away. Germany just takes it in instalments.

Which leaves the only real question. Why 25,000 at all? It is my company and my risk. If I want to start with nothing, that is my call, not a toll the state collects before it will let me try. And the cheap door has a price of its own: to some clients, “UG” reads as “not serious,” and they would rather deal with a GmbH. The structure built to let me in quietly marks me for using it.

This is also why Chat with Work, my fully private Work AI, is still free: I cannot invoice you yet! Try it before that changes.

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