最后的罗马人依然存在。
The last Romans are still around

原始链接: https://signoregalilei.com/2026/06/20/the-last-romans-are-still-around/

罗马帝国虽已在几个世纪前覆灭,但其身份认同从未真正消失,而是发生了演变。如今,仍有多个群体与古罗马世界保持着语言或文化上的联系。 **罗马尼亚人**的名字源于罗马帝国的达契亚行省,其语言源自拉丁语。同样,居住在瑞士阿尔卑斯山区的**罗曼什人**,作为雷蒂亚行省的后裔,尽管几个世纪以来周围都是德语使用者,却依然保留了其独特的拉丁语系语言。 在东方,散布于黑海沿岸及土耳其等地区的**罗梅卡人(Romeika)**和**乌鲁姆人(Urum)**,是拜占庭帝国的语言与文化继承者;而拜占庭帝国直到15世纪,一直都是东罗马国家的延续。 虽然“罗马”一词常被误用,但仍需加以区分:**罗姆人(Romani)**的名字起源于印度,尽管常有误解,但他们与罗马并无关联。与此同时,**梵蒂冈城国**通过将拉丁语作为行政语言,延续了帝国的遗产;而**罗马市**的现代居民,依然是这座“永恒之城”的直接继承者。归根结底,罗马的身份认同在今天并非以统一国家的形式存在,而是作为一种支离破碎却鲜活的遗产,留存在欧洲及更广阔的地区。

这篇 Hacker News 的讨论围绕着一篇题为“最后的罗马人依然存在”的文章展开,探讨了罗马帝国的文化和祖先遗产。 评论者们就当今“罗马人”的定义展开了辩论,指出尽管现代后裔与他们的祖先有所不同,但罗马的影响在当代生活中无处不在。文中提到的主要例子包括拉丁字母、历法系统,以及道路和水利系统等基础基础设施。 讨论还强调了特定族群的历史延续性,例如罗曼什人和罗马尼亚人,他们保持着与罗马时代的语言和文化联系。一些用户表达了生活在崩溃文明废墟之中的忧郁感,而另一些人则引用《蒙提·派森之布莱恩的一生》中著名的“罗马人到底为我们做过什么?”这一桥段,为讨论增添了幽默色彩。总的来说,这篇讨论帖是对罗马文明如何持续交织在现代世界结构中的一次简短沉思。
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For some of us, our Roman Empire actually is the Roman Empire. As far as pre-modern states go, the Roman Empire was incredibly powerful, culturally influential, and well documented. Rome’s expansion shaped Europe, and Europe’s shaped the world.

So when did the Romans stop being a thing? Definitions are as always tough, but they kind of never did. Even though the Roman state stopped functioning over 1500 years ago (or 500 years for all you Constantinople fans), the Roman identity never entirely disappeared; it just evolved. In fact, there are still pockets of people who call themselves “Roman” or some variant thereof, even today. Let’s take a look at who they are.

Romanians

Romanians in traditional dress
Credit Mihai Maxim, CC BY

Romania is a country in Eastern Europe with a name that sounds suspiciously Roman. This is no coincidence. The Romanian language, spoken in Romania and neighboring Moldova, is the Easternmost branch of the Romance Languages – the modern descendants of Latin. Romanians have been calling themselves some variation of “Roman” all the way back to the time of the actual Roman Empire, mostly to distinguish themselves from their non-Roman neighbors. The Romanians’ Roman ancestors may have lived in the same area as modern Romania (the Roman province of Dacia) or in neighboring parts of the empire south of the Danube; the specifics are a topic of contentious (and often politicized) debate.

Orange: Romania; Green: Moldova

During the Medieval era, outsiders often called Romanians “Walachs” or some variation, as can be seen with the Principality of Wallachia, a Romanian-speaking state from the 14th century. “Walach” came from *Walhaz, the Germanic and Slavic word for the Romans and Romanized people (originally just meaning “foreigner”). This root word also survives in the names of other Roman border regions across Europe, like Wales, Cornwall, and Wallonia.

Romansh

Romansh school children celebrating Chalandamarz

The Romansh people live primarily in the Swiss canton of Grisons, in the country’s Southeast. Their language, also called Romansh, is the least widely spoken of Switzerland’s four official languages, spoken natively by only 0.5% of the Swiss population – compared to 62% for German, 22.7% for French, and 8.2% for Italian.

Linguistic map of Switzerland
(Red:Romansh, Blue:German, Green:French, Orange:Italian)

Switzerland as a whole was part of the Roman province of Rhaetia from around the 1st century CE, and was Romanized and Latin-speaking by the end of the Western Roman Empire. Thanks to political and geographic barriers, Romansh remained a separate language from French and Italian through the Middle Ages. While Alemannic German became the main language in most of Switzerland, Grisons was politically independent as the “Three Leagues”, traditional allies of the Swiss that only joined the Swiss Confederacy in 1803. As such, this one pocket of the Alps maintained its distinctive language and culture. And much like the Romanians, the Romansh needed to distinguish themselves from their non-Romance speaking neighbors, and so kept the “Roman” name alive into the present day.

Romeika & Urums

Urums in Crimea
(by Luchiya Puzikova via UNESCO, CC BY)

The Romeika language isn’t a Romance language, but it still has a very solid connection to the Roman Empire. “Ρωμαίικα” (Romaiika) is the native name for several varieties of Greek originally spoken in Asia Minor and around the Black Sea. Romeika speakers are the cultural and linguistic descendants of both Greek colonies predating the Romans, and of the Eastern Roman or Byzantine Empire, which maintained the institutions of the Roman Empire in Constantinople (now Istanbul) up through the 1400s. Their ethnically Greek brethren who haven’t preserved the language are collectively called “Urums”, from the Arabic word for Rome, Rum. As such, these two groups have as much of a claim to being Roman as anybody else.

Eastern Roman Empire in 1025 CE

That said, the Romeika and Urum people don’t have a unified ethnic identity across the whole region. They’ve been split up many times through history, and the different pockets of Greek descendants have different national identities. In the north there are the Azov Greek people. They were primarily centered around the city of Mariupol before the 2022 Russian invasion (hence the city’s Greek-sounding name). In the east, there are the Caucasus Greeks, mostly living in Russia’s Stavropol Krai.

Those living on the southern coast of the Black Sea were split up again by the fall of the Ottoman Empire and the subsequent “population exchanges” between Greece and Turkey in the aftermath of World War One. The Christian Romeika speakers who were forcibly moved to Greece tend to consider themselves as Anatolian Greeks or “Mikrasiates”, with specific subgroups including Smyrnan Greeks, Pontic Greeks, and Cappadocian Greeks. The small number of Muslim Romeika speakers who remained in Turkey generally consider themselves Turks who just so happen to speak the Romeika language.

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Romani

Flag of the Romani people

The Romani or Roma people originated not in the Roman Empire, but in the northern parts of what is now India and Pakistan. Europeans have long called them “Gypsies”, but that term is often considered pejorative. The group’s name probably comes from Sanskrit and doesn’t refer to Rome, though they would have passed through the Eastern Roman Empire on their way to Europe.

Vatican City

Flag of Vatican City

Vatican City, the sovereign state that serves as the administrative center of the Catholic Church, is the last Latin-speaking state in the world. The Church positioned itself as the successor of the Roman Empire during the Medieval era, and did a lot to preserve the cultural legacy of Rome. But Vatican City isn’t exactly a nation of Romans so much as a sovereign ecclesiastical headquarters.

People from modern Rome

Colosseum in modern Rome

And finally, while there may not be a Roman Empire anymore, there is still a city of Rome. Through centuries of Ostrogoths, Byzantines, Lombards, Franks, Popes, and Italians, the Eternal City still stands – its monuments and its millions of residents remaining among the Roman Empire’s greatest legacies.

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