Codeberg 禁止“vibe coded”项目。
Codeberg bans vibe coded projects

原始链接: https://codeberg.org/Codeberg/org/pulls/1253#issuecomment-19820434

关于在开源项目中使用人工智能的争论,核心在于不可避免的法律风险。支持严格监管的人士认为,目前人工智能的实践处于“法律灰色地带”,这使得项目容易受到威胁。人们非常担心人工智能公司最终可能通过游说或法律手段,对人工智能生成的代码主张版权,从而实质上“挟持”开源贡献者。由于大多数项目缺乏应对此类威胁的诉讼资源,许多人认为必须划定明确的界限,以确保未来的权益不受侵害。 尽管有些人认为人工智能可以作为“辅助输入”工具,但对“完全脱手”的人工智能自动化存在广泛担忧。为降低这些风险,用户建议制定明确的准则,例如禁止使用大语言模型自动提交代码或发起合并请求(PR),并限制在人际沟通中使用人工智能——这与 Godot 团队近期采取的做法类似。核心挑战在于,如何在技术、伦理和版权法错综复杂的交叉点上,界定可接受的辅助与有害的自动化之间的界限。

自由软件托管平台 Codeberg 近日修订了章程,禁止托管主要由人工智能工具生成的“AI 编码”(vibe coded)内容。该平台指出,此举是出于对版权归属不明以及潜在有害且未经审查代码的担忧。 这一声明在 Hacker News 上引发了激烈讨论。批评者和持怀疑态度的用户质疑 Codeberg 将如何执行该政策,并指出在规模化环境下,区分“AI 辅助”编程与“AI 编码”本质上是主观且难以检测的。有人认为,仅依赖冗长的注释或特定的提交信息等风格指标来判断并不可靠,可能会导致不公平的执法。 相反,支持者则认为该政策旨在保护平台的使命和基础设施,防止低质量的 AI 生成内容泛滥。他们认为这是一项合理的举措,有助于优先保护人工编写的软件并维护社区标准。尽管该禁令在技术层面的可行性仍存疑,但此次讨论凸显了开发者社区在快速采用 AI 编程工具与维护传统开源项目完整性之间日益增长的矛盾。
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Why is the focus exclusively on "copyright status"? Codeberg is meant to be the ethical alternative
@hsza

hi! i'm not on the codeberg team at all, but i wanted to reply my thoughts. The short answer is because, in meme terms "we live in a society". Copyright is an unavoidable fact and LLMs are right now working in a legal gray area which can be problematic, SPECIALLY for open source projects! What if suddenly the AI companies lobby laws to make sure the copyright of LLM-coded projects goes towards them? Or something like asking for percentages of profit, exclusive usage, etc. Even if you were to make your case via the judicial route, how many Open Source projects have the money to fight that? Working in a legal gray area is pracitcally a blank check that allows these companies to force projects to god-knows-what in the future.

also, "mostly" is up to too-lenient interpretation

To the rest of everyone here, I totally agree and am also worried about this! I've been thinking that the best scenario for llms is basically assisted typing. While the worst case is agentic hands-off vibecoding. The bad bit is this is a spectrum definitely, so where do we draw the line? I think for starters LLM-automated commits or PRs could be prohibited. The Godot team is prohibiting the usage of LLMs for human-to-human communication (as well as just generally in the project basically) which I think it's a good idea. I'm quite interested to see how this discussion evolves and particularly where do we draw the line? as I like seeing the possibility of good usages of LLMs. But again, the legal concerns are real and unavoidable

> Why is the focus exclusively on "copyright status"? Codeberg is meant to be the ethical alternative @hsza hi! i'm not on the codeberg team at all, but i wanted to reply my thoughts. The short answer is because, in meme terms "we live in a society". Copyright is an unavoidable fact and LLMs are right now working in a legal gray area which can be problematic, SPECIALLY for open source projects! What if suddenly the AI companies lobby laws to make sure the copyright of LLM-coded projects goes towards them? Or something like asking for percentages of profit, exclusive usage, etc. Even if you were to make your case via the judicial route, how many Open Source projects have the money to fight that? Working in a legal gray area is pracitcally a blank check that allows these companies to force projects to god-knows-what in the future. > also, "mostly" is up to too-lenient interpretation To the rest of everyone here, I totally agree and am also worried about this! I've been thinking that the best scenario for llms is basically assisted typing. While the worst case is agentic hands-off vibecoding. The bad bit is this is a spectrum definitely, so where do we draw the line? I think for starters LLM-automated commits or PRs could be prohibited. The Godot team is prohibiting the usage of LLMs for human-to-human communication (as well as just generally in the project basically) which I think it's a good idea. I'm quite interested to see how this discussion evolves and particularly **where do we draw the line?** as I like seeing the possibility of good usages of LLMs. But again, the legal concerns are real and unavoidable

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