用JEPAs证明并改进柏拉图表征假设
Proving and improving the Platonic Representation Hypothesis with JEPAs

原始链接: https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.39302

本论文形式化了柏拉图表示假说。它证明,当正样本对是对同一场景的良好视角且不对齐性有界时,基于不同模态训练的联合嵌入预测架构(JEPA)所学到的表示在旋转意义下等价。它认为,下一token预测表现得像使用了坏视角的JEPA,解释了为什么语言模型主要通过规模与视觉对齐。从14.5万条字幕到9.4亿张网络图像的实验揭示了一种对齐缩放定律。良好视角达到相同对齐所需的训练样本比下一token预测少42倍。一个1.09亿参数的文本JEPA比被评估的高达720亿参数的语言模型和CLIP的文本编码器对齐得更好。一个旋转可以将分别训练的编码器组合成图像描述器,在COCO上达到CIDEr 0.838。没有配对数据时,该文本JEPA也优于报告的高达80亿参数语言模型的零样本结果。中心结论:精心选择的正视角,而非单纯规模,是柏拉图表示的关键杠杆。

Hacker News 讨论了一篇关于用 JEPAs 证明并改进柏拉图表示假说的 arXiv 论文。评论者争论该假说是否深刻,还是仅反映向最优降维的收敛。有人指出论文中数学定义的版本可能无法回答更广泛的哲学问题,而其他人则将表示比作坐标系统或任务特定的工程选择。帖子包含对不兼容表示的推测、人类意识形态与政治的类比,以及不同观点之间映射的可能性。JEPAs 引起兴趣,一名评论者指出小型文本 JEPA 在更少样本下表现良好。批评者质疑理论论文的炒作,并指出演示产生许多错误答案,不过另一名用户解释称在没有配对图像-字幕训练的情况下这是预期现象。其他评论还反思了 LLM 对共享措辞和标题可能产生的影响。总体而言,讨论混合了技术怀疑、概念类比和对模型收敛的推测。
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Abstract:Whether models trained on different modalities converge to the same representation of the world is central to AI. The Platonic Representation Hypothesis (PRH) conjectures that they do as they scale, but without a proof it offers neither a guarantee nor a recipe. We turn the hypothesis into a theorem. First, we prove a \emph{Platonic Representation Theorem}: Joint-Embedding Predictive Architectures (JEPAs) trained separately on any number of modalities learn the same representation up to one rotation whenever their positive pairs are two observations of one scene--\emph{good views}--and their misalignment is bounded otherwise. Second, we show that next-token prediction is a JEPA with \emph{bad views}, parts of a single document, which explains why language models align with vision only through scale. Third, we validate the theory from 145k captions to the texts of 940M web images, and uncover a scaling law of alignment that predicts unseen runs within seed noise. Good views need 42 times fewer training samples than next-token prediction on the same corpus to reach the same alignment, and a 109M-parameter text JEPA aligns with DINOv2 and CLIP's image encoders better than every language model we evaluated, up to 72B parameters, and than CLIP's text encoder: next-token prediction is a remarkably inefficient route to platonic representations. As a showcase, one rotation turns separately trained encoders into an image captioner (CIDEr .838 on COCO). Even that rotation needs no pair: on the latest pair-free benchmark, our text JEPA beats every zero-shot accuracy reported with language models up to 8B parameters, e.g., 64\% against at most 56\% top-5 on ImageNet-100. Positive views, and not scale alone, are thus the lever to build platonic representations.
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