GLM 5.2 与即将到来的 AI 利润率崩溃
GLM 5.2 and the coming AI margin collapse

原始链接: https://martinalderson.com/posts/the-upcoming-ai-margin-collapse-part-1-glm-5-2/

本系列文章共两篇,旨在探讨人工智能经济中一个重大却常被误解的转变:从侧重训练的资本支出转向由推理驱动的利润空间。 尽管市场对 DeepSeek R1 等模型的反应错误地释放了“训练价值崩盘”的信号,但真正的战场在于推理。目前,前沿实验室通过收取高额 API 费用享有巨大的利润空间,但这一模式正受到 GLM 5.2 等高质量“开放权重”替代方案的冲击。 作者发现,在编程任务上,GLM 5.2 的表现可与顶级模型(如 Opus/GPT)相媲美。尽管它在视觉和网络搜索方面尚有不足,但由于服务商提供了与现有智能体工具兼容的“直接替换”方案,切换成本微乎其微。由于 GLM 5.2 的成本仅为专有 API 价格的一小部分——且随着基于 AMD 等硬件优化的推理服务,其成本有望进一步下降——构建高质量、私有化或本地部署 AI 的门槛正在急剧降低。 作者认为,“你的利润就是我的机会”,暗示推理价格的崩盘对当前前沿实验室的主导地位构成了生存威胁。本系列的下一篇文章将深入分析这一趋势下整个行业内的赢家与输家。

这篇 Hacker News 的讨论评估了由于 GLM 5.2 等开放权重模型的迅速发展,导致“AI 利润率崩溃”即将来临的说法。 对话重点涵盖了几个核心议题: * **支持利润率稳定的观点:** 一些用户认为,得益于服务保证、集成能力和责任保护,企业软件历来能保持高利润率;这表明企业会更倾向于选择“安全”的现有供应商,而非更廉价的替代品。 * **支持利润率崩溃的观点:** 另一些人则认为,随着闭源模型与开源模型之间的性能差距不断缩小,人工智能将成为一种大宗商品。由于模型替换相对容易,企业将难以维持定价权。此外,诸如先进的 Token 缓存等技术创新,正大幅降低代理工作流的成本。 * **实际局限性:** 用户指出,像 GLM 5.2 这类模型的当前定价尚无法与 Anthropic 或 OpenAI 等成熟厂商竞争。此外,许多人认为我们正处于“收益递减”阶段,当前模型已足以胜任大多数专业任务,进一步提升智能水平的经济意义正在减弱。 最终,参与者对这种危言耸听持怀疑态度,并指出转向开源竞争力是一个众所周知的渐进过程,而非突发性的冲击。
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原文

This is a two part series focusing on what I believe is perhaps the least understood upcoming shift in AI economics. If you've enjoyed this and want to be notified about the second post, please feel free to sign up for my newsletter.

The real DeepSeek moment is upon us

What feels like decades ago, markets recoiled at DeepSeek's R1 model. The theory being that given the underlying V3 model reportedly cost under $6m to train, the market therefore thought the huge investment in capex for model training was over, and thus the stock price of Nvidia et al collapsed overnight.

Of course, this was a hugely poor read of where the costs actually lie in AI. Training - while no doubt capex intensive - is a fixed, up-front cost. You spend hundreds of millions to train a model, then you are "done".

Inference, on the other hand, scales with your demand. It has genuine marginal costs. I've written about this at length over the past year or so. Again, the mainstream understanding of this - that the API costs the providers charge are their real costs is mistaken.

Indeed, when Anthropic/OpenAI charge $25/MTok for inference, my napkin maths suggests that this is probably something like 90% gross margin on the cost of compute vs the rack rate. It may be a bit higher, or a bit lower (OpenAI's leaked financials suggest a ~60% gross margin on revenue, but this no doubt includes a lot of other costs like support, payment processing and other services they offer), but the whole business model of frontier AI labs is in short to spend a large amount of money on salaries on compute to train a model, then amortise that cost over a lot of very profitable inference. If you can amortise that cost over enough inference you turn from profitable on a COGS basis to... actually profitable.

GLM 5.2

I have been playing around with GLM5.2 from Z.ai for the last couple of weeks. I believe GLM5.2 is the first model that reaches the "bar" of a genuine open weights competitor to Opus and GPT (at the time of writing, the latest version of GPT was 5.5 - future models no doubt will exceed this).

It's genuinely very good and hard for me to tell the difference between Opus - my daily driver and it.

I've found that it is slow because of the amount of thinking it tends to do. For non interactive agentic tasks (like reviewing PRs in the background) which aren't time critical this is a non issue, but for interactive use it is definitely a tad too slow to keep my attention. This also somewhat reduces the cost effectiveness of it (more thinking means more tokens, which increases costs).

It also doesn't have vision support. It's funny how quickly I've gone from basically never wanting to use vision (because it was so inaccurate, I'd often pause sessions when I caught it using vision), to using it all the time - since Opus 4.7 introduced far higher resolution vision capabilities. It's genuinely frustrating it not being able to read image-based PDFs, screenshots and design files. I'm sure they have a more multimodal model in the works, but this is a significant weakness against the frontier labs.

Secondly, and something I really didn't expect to be a blocker, is the lack of/poor web search capabilities. It turns out that nearly every agentic session does a lot of web searching for looking up items. Z.ai provides a replacement MCP for web search, but it's pretty awful and slow. Fireworks doesn't provide any, though they gave me a very vague answer saying they are always looking to improve products. I would take that as no plans personally, but let's see.

I've managed to somewhat work around this by telling the agent to use a CLI based web search like ddgr, but this is a real weakness right now. I am very bullish on the potential of 3rd party web search APIs. This is actually a huge gap in what open weights model providers can offer, and it turns out great web search capabilities are essential for many agentic tasks. Regardless, this no doubt will be solved with time - there are many people building web search indexes and it just requires the right partnerships and plumbing in place.

Drop in replacement

Where it gets really scary for the frontier labs is how easy it is to migrate to open weights models. Both Z.ai and Fireworks offer both an OpenAI compatible and Anthropic compatible endpoint. This makes it absolutely trivial to use with Claude Code and Codex. You just set the base URL to point to your inference provider, give it the API key and tell it to use GLM5.2.

Given Anthropic recently announced (then backtracked) on charging API rates for claude -p non interactive agentic use, you will find for many/most of those use cases you can just drop in GLM instead. And for interactive use, apart from the lack of vision and slow(er) speed, it was genuinely almost impossible for me to realise I wasn't using Opus in Claude Code.

This is not Microsoft or Salesforce like lock in, where you need to spend years planning a migration. The switching costs are incredibly low, and I would argue that are actually far less than trying to keep up on all the policy and term changes that the frontier lab models tend to scramble around with. It's possible that Claude Code will make it harder to use 3rd party providers, but there are many good open source options (like Codex itself and OpenCode, amongst dozens).

One concern I do hear from enterprise is data privacy and security. There is no doubt that using Z.ai's official API and subscription is almost certainly a non-starter, with their terms being at best weak and the deep connection to Mainland China. But of course, with open weights being open there are many other providers in the market, many with proper contractual provisions. And, if that isn't enough, you can of course host in on premises yourself, which actually opens up even more sensitive data - that couldn't be sent to any third party - to Opus-quality agentic workflows.

Cost savings

The going rate for GLM5.2 seems to be around the $4.40/MTok mark. This is less than 20% of the retail price of Opus and ~15% the cost of GPT5.5. Now, given it does use more tokens for a given task, this isn't a totally apples to apples comparison. But I'd be very surprised if it wasn't more than 50% cheaper for nearly all workflows, for a very similar level of quality.

In terms of subscriptions, Z.ai offers a "coding plan" subscription which mirrors the plans you'd see from Anthropic and OpenAI, but with a higher claimed usage limit. I expect for most professional use the very lax terms around training and data retention will make this a difficult sell, but if the frontier labs were to try and increase pricing substantially I can see it being a credible option for those that are budget-conscious.

I expect these costs for GLM5.2 to come down significantly over the coming months as well, as more optimisation is done to the serving stack(s). Wafer wrote an interesting write up of their efforts to run it on AMD hardware. They suggest that it is 2.75x cheaper per token to run inference on AMD vs Nvidia Blackwell.

Part two is where this gets interesting - what a collapse in inference margins actually does to the industry, and who is likely to win and lose. I'd keep Bezos's famous "your margin is my opportunity" line in mind. If you'd like me to drop it in your inbox the moment it's out, sign up to the newsletter - or grab the RSS feed if that's more your thing.

Disclosure - Fireworks kindly gave me some free credit to experiment with GLM to help write this article.

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