哪一个《奥德赛》译本在盲测中胜出?
Which Odyssey translation wins a blind reading test?

原始链接: https://homer.scrivium.com/report/

本研究采用双盲自适应比较框架,基于 674 份投票和 7,919 次两两对比决策,对八位译者进行了排名。为确保平衡与效率,本方法采用正则化布拉德利-特里(Bradley–Terry)模型,在每次比较后更新译者能力评估,并利用 L2 正则化防止因数据稀疏导致的极端偏差。 自适应选择算法优先考虑“新颖性”与“不确定性”,倾向于选择尚未对比过的配对,并将比较网络中互不相连的组别进行关联。为控制潜在的外部变量,最终模型通过部分池化(partial pooling)对特定场景效应、招募批次及首位偏差进行了调整,从而显著提高了预测准确性(对数损失从 0.669 降至 0.633)。 尽管在早期阶段针对特定译者和段落的数据存在细微差异,但本研究通过排除不完整或快速完成的投票,并使用加密随机化处理序列与位置,保持了数据的稳健完整性。最终排名基于 50,000 次自助重采样(bootstrap resamples)得出,确保了统计稳定性,其 R̂ 值为 1.00 且无采样器发散,最终认定法格尔斯(Fagles)译本表现最佳。

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We hid translator names, dates, and publishers. Readers saw up to 12 comparisons. On 668 of the 674 analyzed ballots, the opening eight formed a balanced cycle in which every available translator appeared twice. Before each of the final four comparisons, the test refit a regularized Bradley–Terry model using that reader’s earlier head-to-heads. It first covered translators with the least evidence. If skips had split the comparison network, it favored pairs that joined those fragments. The remaining score rewarded close contenders, uncertainty, and pairs the reader had not already seen. Scene assignment followed the phase-specific rules detailed below. Left and right positions were independently randomized for every comparison. Skips changed neither translator’s preference score, although the pair and scene still counted as having been shown. Detailed implementation facts:

  • Initialization: Every translator began at ability 0, equivalent to a neutral 50% predicted win probability.

  • Updating scores: After each completed head-to-head, the browser refit the model from all previous completed head-to-heads. It ran 80 gradient iterations with L2 regularization of 0.7, shrinking sparse estimates toward zero. Skips were omitted from the ability fit.

  • Eligible pairs: The starting universe was every unordered pair among the translators present in that ballot—28 pairs for eight translators.

  • Coverage and connectivity filters: If completed head-to-heads left disconnected groups, only pairs joining two groups were considered. It then retained pairs containing the largest possible number of translators tied for the fewest decisions.

  • Repeated pairs: Previously shown pairs were excluded whenever an unseen pair survived those filters. Repeats were permitted only when necessary and were penalized according to 1 / (1 + previous meetings). A skipped pair still counted as previously shown.

  • Closeness: For abilities aᵢ and aⱼ, closeness was 1 / (1 + |aᵢ − aⱼ|). This was only one part of the composite score, alongside contender strength, uncertainty, connectivity, and novelty.

  • Final selection: The algorithm kept the six highest-scoring eligible pairs and made a weighted selection among them. Higher scores were more likely, but the highest score was not automatically chosen.

  • Scene assignment: The method changed prospectively. Analyzed ballots 1–6 used the earlier four-scene cycle. Ballots 7–447 balanced scene exposure while also considering editorial strength, lexical contrast, and pair freshness. For analyzed ballots 448–674, the selector removed the immediately previous scene when alternatives existed, retained the least-shown scenes, sorted them by ID, and selected one with a ballot-specific deterministic hash. Only this final phase was fully blind to candidate identity, wording, and the reader’s selections.

  • Unavailable material: Pair selection only saw translators in the session’s candidate set; scene assignment only saw passages present in that session. Nothing unavailable was imputed or backfilled.

  • Left/right order: The logical pair was independently flipped with a 50/50 cryptographic random draw before every comparison.

  • Randomness and seeds: There was no fixed study-wide assignment seed. The server cryptographically shuffled translator and passage order and generated a random ballot UUID. That UUID became a per-ballot seed for reproducible adaptive-pair and scene assignment. Left/right flips remained separately cryptographically random and unseeded.

A JSON validation bug changed which options were available early in collection. Daniel Mendelsohn was missing for the first 6 readers and entered with reader 7. Harmonious household and The Lotus-Eaters were missing for the first 457 readers. Of those, 447 remain in the analysis. The scenes entered with reader 458, or analyzed ballot 448.

We did not rewrite or remove ballots because of the bug. The report separately excludes 11 ballots completed in under 90 seconds, including 10 collected while the two scenes were missing. Opening rounds balanced the options available at the time. The scene-adjusted model accounts for translator-by-scene and recruitment-wave effects.

The published ranking fits a regularized Bradley–Terry model:

P(i ≻ j) = σ(βᵢ − βⱼ) = 1 / (1 + e−(βᵢ−βⱼ))

β is a translation’s estimated ability. We report pairwise strength as its average probability of beating each of the other seven translations. A unit L2 penalty pulls weakly observed estimates toward the field average instead of allowing extreme scores from sparse matchups.

The compensated scene model adds partially pooled scene effects, recruitment wave effects, and a first-position term:

logit P(i ≻ j) = (αᵢ − αⱼ) + (sₖᵢ − sₖⱼ) + (wₜᵢ − wₜⱼ) + δ

k identifies the scene, t the recruitment wave, and δ the first-option effect. Partial pooling keeps small scene samples from overreacting. In five-fold grouped cross-validation, mean held-out log loss improved from 0.669 to 0.633; the final sampler had R̂ = 1.00 and no divergences.

The 95% ranges come from 50,000 whole-ballot bootstrap resamples, preserving the dependence among one reader’s choices. The initial analyzed charts use 674 ballots and 7,919 head-to-heads. Retakes and later writes from the same anonymous browser never entered the counted totals.

50,000 / 50,000

whole-ballot reruns ranked Fagles first

5.5% lower

held-out prediction error after scene adjustment

R̂ 1.00 · 0

maximum R̂ and sampler divergences; minimum effective sample size 1,230

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