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| FYI to anyone out there considering this- don't plant tropical milkweed:
"Another problem with tropical milkweed is that it harbors a one-celled parasite, Ophryocystis elektroscirrha, called OE for short. Because tropical milkweed does not die out in winter, the parasite does not die back either. Monarchs with large numbers of this parasite – which coevolved with monarchs and does not infect other species – are born with crumpled wings and cannot fly; the less infected are smaller, have shorter lifespans, fly poorly or are unsuccessful at mating. Only the healthiest butterflies reach overwintering areas in Mexico; butterflies with this parasite do not survive long migrations. " https://www.cambridgeday.com/2024/08/03/more-abut-monarch-bu... |
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| True, but they aren’t invasive here (NorCal, they are “potentially invasive” because they are invasive elsewhere, but do not spread) and native butterflies can use them as a host species here. |
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| I've seen one of those wasps dragging a relatively large huntsman spider across the ground. Not sure if I got a photo or not. Nature at it's brutal best. |
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| Thank you for doing this. I would also recommend doing the same for other pollinators as well, native bees, wasps, moths etc. all need our help. The best way to do it is follow the steps to create a certified native wildlife habitat. I converted my backyard into one and I see the difference in the variety of pollinators I see now vs when I moved in. If anyone is interested on how to do it: https://www.nwf.org/CERTIFY
TLDR: Add hosts plants for the larva. Add food sources (nectar and pollen) for the pollinators. Add safe resting spaces (old logs, leaf litter etc). Provide water. Native plants work the best, but that doesn’t mean you only have them, non natives also can be useful. |
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| The survival rate is only about 6%. If you put them in the enclosure most of them survive.
We just stayed at a fireplace where they do it. It's very satisfing, no trouble |
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| Yeah the QC company is using the silk for stuffing for mittens, as a kind of down replacement: https://lasclay.com/en/products/mittens
Which seems promising to me, at least. Again it seems like a plant that with some smart old fashioned selective breeding could be made a lot more useful. But that kind of horticultural work has on the whole fallen out of fashion, it seems. |
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| Obligatory comment to avoid planting Asclepias curassavica (aka tropical milkweed, often found in big box stores), in favor of any of the native species.
For the healthiest to butterfly option, your milkweed should die back yearly in whatever climate you plant it. This helps encourage butterflies to migrate at the appropriate time and prevents parasite load from building up. https://www.science.org/content/article/plan-save-monarch-bu... Alternatively, you can cut it back yearly... but safer to just get ahold of a local species. |
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| I had about 13 of these caterpillers from the butterflys that came after I planted my garden. After they got big and fat, a huge fat toad came on to the pot and snacked on literally all of them. |
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| You have to call city hall to get permission to grow grass in your own backyard? Is that a HOA thing or what's going on there that that's required? |
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| In some parts of the world it could very well be, now or in the future.
Understanding the framework you can legally act is pretty important, even if it leads to some overcautionary edge cases. |
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| America is really bad for this sort of thing though? One example that stands out in my mind:
The shower is outside on the back patio. The shower is fitted with hot water from the conventional water heater plumbed from the house. The shower is surrounded by a stainless steel privacy screen and a lot of really tall tropical plants. It’s the one feature that friends and family seem to like the most about the cottage. But the county authorities said it was completely illegal. First, the county inspector cited the raw sewerage that was being released into the environment. By “raw sewerage” he was referring to warm soapy water. The “environment” in this case was my rural back garden. The remedy was to plumb the outdoor shower with a drain that carried the “sewerage” into the septic system for safe disposal. I had this work done at some considerable expense that I struggled to afford at the time. Then the inspector was invited back to final the plumbing permit. Unfortunately he cited the project for another violation instead. It seems that rain water was able to drain into the outdoor shower and enter the septic system which was a code violation. He couldn’t have told me this earlier? Evidently inspectors shy away from proscribing holistic solutions. Instead they just look at what’s in front of them and check off boxes on their clip boards. It’s up to the property owner to understand and comply with the impenetrable codes on their own. So I covered the outdoor shower with a simple roof that prevented the rain from entering the drain (completely ruining the whole concept of a tropical outdoor shower). When the inspector returned this too was a code violation since a covered structure with plumbing constitutes a second dwelling unit on a lot that is only zoned for one unit. I removed the roof from the shower in disgust. Finally a sympathetic neighbor said he had a similar problem with his outdoor shower and solved the problem by re-labeling it as a hose bib on the permit documents. I plugged up the shower drain with concrete, removed the shower head, and invited the inspector back to approve the hot and cold hose bibs inside the little privacy screen on the back patio. In fifteen seconds he was able to check off the little boxes on his clip board and there were no more problems with the outdoor shower. A sense of relief and calm washed over me. But it only lasted for ten seconds. The inspector then said he couldn’t sign off on the building inspection because this house didn’t have a shower or bath tub… source: https://granolashotgun.wordpress.com/2014/05/22/building-cod... |
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| In rural areas, which is where it seems like Clarkson's farm is located, there are no inspectors. They just don't exist.
I expect building codes and nonsense like that in cities. But not in farms. |
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| South Africa. Where the highest tax bracket is 45%, one below it is 41% where the bulk of the individuals in our HN field would fall under.
https://www.sars.gov.za/tax-rates/income-tax/rates-of-tax-fo... And yes it's "progressive", but I'm rounding up for arguments-sake due to all the "other" taxes that aren't individual income tax. Fuel levy, sugar tax, VAT, import tax (err "duties"), cigarette tax, employment insurance tax, property transfer fees/taxes, estate taxes, capital gains tax, etc. Either way... 50% is big, but so is 40%, or 30%. Doubly so in South Africa because we have no choice but to pay for a lot of supposed government services using post-tax income (due to this being a failed 3rd world state that doesn't provide actual services). E.g. healthcare, security, fire, insurance, etc. Cherry on top: Only 5-10% of the population even pays income tax here. So no it's not paying one's fair share, this is a giant socialist wealth-redistribution system where a good chunk gets carved out and given to the high-ranking government priesthood and otherwise connected individuals. The scraps make their way to underfunded government services for the real poor serfs to maybe get some benefit out of, unfortunately. The reason I mention this, is that it's the same in other governments, they're just less blatant about it. It's only in these extreme examples that people see the nature of what's going on, and how they are actually slave-labour for the government. Well... at least only 50% of their labour /s. |
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| Wouldn't these hypothetical ticks only be a problem for him if he wants to walk through your barkyard? Never mind that ticks can and do live in short grass just fine... |
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| They can travel a far way to setup their chrysalis. Though I've also found that when they disappear they tend to be dead from tanchid flies or something else. |
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| Thanks for doing this. Although your comment also has me a little sad in that what once flourished by the millions now has to be nursed by the dozens.
Keep up the good work! |
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| "As a reformed bee-keeper,"
I take it you mean honey bee keeper and I'll assume American (you) and European honey bees (ie non-native to US). There is nothing wrong with that, provided you also allow for solitary bees and other pollinators too. Note that even "foreign" pollinators are still useful for pollination. Do try to discourage "helpful pest control contractors". As a honey bee keeper, you can't be faulted. Yes you would deploy colonies of 50,000 insects at a time into an area where the locals are not that well organised. However, thanks to the likes of neonics and monocultures, any pollinators at all are welcome. I'm a 53 year old Brit and I live next to a park and have a very insect friendly garden. Butterflies are really down compared to my memories as a child. I do see quite a few social bees (eg bumble bees) and solitary bees (eg masonary bees) but again, they seem to be rather sparse compared to my memories. Also, a summer drive does not leave my car covered in bugs. I have a customer: https://butterfly-conservation.org/ ... you'll have a local equivalent. I think we should all try to follow their advice, otherwise we may be the last humans to remember something and the world goes a bit "Mad Max". That's a bit unlikely but it won't end well if we do nothing. |
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| Thanks for the heads up: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buzz_pollination "About 9% of the flowers of the world are primarily pollinated using buzz pollination"
So buzz pollination is very important. Here in the UK I suppose bumble bees do the job. Blue banded bees are native to Australia (according to some frantic searching!) I'm not sure what to suggest and you will know better than most what happens when you try to tinker with species introduction. Australia is practically a poster child for how not to do it but to be fair very few parts of the world are unscathed from unwise introductions. Here in the UK, Japanese Knotweed, Himalayan Balsam, a shrimp from NZ (can't remember the name) and others are a bit of an issue. We even have feral apples (thanks Romans) - not really, that was a benign introduction, that seems to have been a win/win and cider resulted! I think we got honeybees from the Roman occupation too but the climate here means that colonies usually need some assistance to survive - wild colonies are rare. The biggest pest for honey bees here is the Varroa mite. Varroa can only live in honey bee colonies, but you let that loose and I doubt it will end well. I can only suggest trying to find what attracts honey bees and growing that in one place and what works for blue banded bees as far away as possible. Reading this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amegilla_cingulata - threats. Even Cane toads munch on them! Its a tough one but you could try getting touch with the nearest uni biology/environmental/conservation or whatever department and see if they have any ideas. Good luck! |
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| I was going to say, people over index on Monarchs, but other native pollinators need a lot more help. Native bees, wasps, wasps. I converted my backyard into a certified wildlife native habitat and I see the difference in the variety of pollinators I see now vs when I moved in. If anyone is interested on how to do it: https://www.nwf.org/CERTIFY
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| I don’t understand how people grew things without glyphosate. Getting rid of the weeds manually is extremely labor intensive. It’s many hundreds of hours of hired labor every week. |
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| It's almost like there is more involved in a successful migration to a less synthetic approach to agriculture than simply stopping using fertilizers and pesticides. |
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| That quickly comes to mind while reading HNers boast about their feel-good milkweed garden.
We step over dollar bills to pick up pennies, and it’s very hard to get red pilled out of it. |
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| I don't think that's clear at all. There's damage being done, and ameliorating or avoiding that is sensible, but "destroying" is quite an exaggeration. |
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| I have written about the role of urban green spaces, such as golf courses, as taking an active, and mandated role on this issue: https://golfcoursewiki.substack.com/p/golf-for-non-golfers-g...
I love golf and hate that it's often a deeply problematic game, when, if we line the out-of-play areas with native flora, they have high enough area, and low enough humans per sq mile, that they can be effective wildlife habitats... if only the players would be satisfied with non-pristine conditions, by not using herbicides and pesticides. This is happening here and there with municipal courses in CA, but the culture of golf is still focused on surreal conditions and monostand grasses. It's an imperfect solution, but as spawl and farmland eat up more and more native areas, I honestly don't have much of an idea what else to do. |
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| I've started keeping my own chemical-free bees. My hope is to build a healthy apiary of local bees that casts swarms, which will help replenish the wild bee population around me. |
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| Ideally, colonies that are unable to keep mites etc. under control will simply die. I expect some losses before a strong colony emerges that I can split. |
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| The biggest problems are monoculture agriculture (few places for milkweed to grow), and widespread use of insecticides (kill what few butterflies there are). |
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| I feel like we're just one collapse away from unrecoverable scenario. And we just don't know which extinction will be the one that ends it all. |
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| We did, unfortunately the foundation of our society and economy is built on the assumption that the age pyramid is not reverse. Expect hard times ahead. |
It's been such an exciting thing to do every year and the kids love helping out too. It's a fun, satisfying, and easy way to help out! Highly recommend :)