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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=41418301

用户描述了受半导体设计启发,使用复杂的多线程技术创建了一个大型彩色玻璃窗。 他们的目标是描绘多层制造工艺,包括 SI、注入、多晶硅、金属、通孔等,但仅包括一层金属。 最终产品将类似于一个薄层雕塑,而不是传统的彩色玻璃。 此外,用户还提到阅读威廉·庞德斯通的《囚徒困境》,其中详细介绍了约翰·冯·诺依曼的一生。 用户强调了提花织机对早期计算设备发展的影响,特别是在打孔卡的使用方面。 用户注意到现代技术激发旧形式新设计的讽刺性,将彩色玻璃窗的创建与将详细的 4004 微芯片渲染到 4 米 x 4 米彩色玻璃面板中进行比较。 此外,用户分享了查看芯片背面的记忆,注意到与另一面的复杂图案相比,它看起来是纯灰色的。 该材料的透明特性使得拍照无损。 引用弗拉基米尔·纳博科夫的《微暗的火》,用户思考欣赏艺术创作背后的情感深度,承认与艺术作品的个人联系可以极大地影响一个人的感知。 最后,用户反思了他们在 IT、编织方面的经验,以及他们对土著人民和殖民化的想法,并提到了一个与纳瓦霍部落相关的具体例子及其与半导体制造的联系。 他们对围绕美洲原住民的负面刻板印象表示担忧,并警告不要延续有害的叙述。

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That's some serious...multithreading!

(I applaud others for resisting such cringe, but I just couldn't help myself.)



I'm building a stained glass window for our front entrance, as a sometimes chip designer it's going to be a half adder (so much much smaller than a pentium) - the big challenge is showing all the layers (si, implantation, poly, metal, vias etc) I'm only doing 1 level of metal. The result is going to be more of a thin layered sculpture than a traditional stained glass window



AHh gotcha.

Well yeah I reckon you render a full custom 4004 w/ koru patterned transistors into about 4m x 4m stained glass panel. Would look good as the foyer panel for the CS dept at the University of Waikato



A fun full-circle. The Jacquard loom was influential for input for early computers, and now the computer is influencing the output of looms



I thought the same thing reading this! I'm currently reading Prisoner's Dilemma by William Poundstone, which details the life of John von Neumann. According to his brother Nicholas, von Neumann likely got the idea to use punch cards for computers from the Jacquard loom. One of his father's (Maxwell von Neumann) clients at the turn of the century was a Jacquard loom manufacturer, and Max would evidently discuss his work with his kids everyday over supper.



Ah, you're right. Babbage's Analytic Engine was designed to use punch cards, and I totally forgot about the Hollerith Machine that I read about just last year. I wonder what other false information Poundstone's book has. Thanks for the heads up!



Not only did Babbage's Analytical Engine use punched cards, it was specifically inspired by the Jacquard Loom, as Babbage was a massive fan of it (and owned a portrait made on one!)



I laughed at the bit where the gallery picked the wrong side of the rug to display, but this got me thinking -- presumably all the die photos we see are from the etched side of the wafer, what does it look like on the other side? Is it just all flat?



The other side is plain gray silicon; I've looked at the back side of dies by mistake many times. (Intel is starting to do power through the back side, which would make the back more interesting.)



Note that it's entirely transparent to some wavelengths of light, which is why a lot of die shots are taken from the backside, as it allows doing them non-destructively. You just cannot use visible light.



"Such hearts, such brains, would be unable to comprehend that one's attachment to a masterpiece may be utterly overwhelming, especially when it is the underside of the weave that entrances the beholder and only begetter, whose own past intercoils there with the fate of the innocent author." --- Nabokov, "Pale Fire"



As a hobby hand-spinner and occasional weaver who’s been in IT my entire working life, and interested in learning more about what my home country has done to the nations that were already there, this article is excellent in all regards.



I get the feeling Intel needed to "bribe" the Navajo by ordering this work. Why did they need to do that? Was it part of an agreement with tribe leadership?



I think it's more likely that someone at Intel thought, "You know what would be cool? A rug that looked like the Pentium die." Note that unlike Fairchild, Intel's plant is not on Navajo land so there are no tribal agreements.



It's actually quite common for large companies to commission artworks inspired by their products; American companies frequently reach out to tribal artists for the uniqueness of their artistic style. Your comment is pretty depressing -- despite the clear mastery demonstrated in this art, you're insinuating a nefarious plot involving a long-scapegoated population.



Not a pentium question, but..

> Due to the end of the Cold War, Hughes acquired General Dynamics' missile business in 1991 before being acquired by General Motors in 1985 and sold to Raytheon in 1997.

I'm guessing that's supposed to be 91 -> 95 -> 97?



Trying to sort out aerospace companies is always a mess. I got the dates mostly right but reversed the timeline. GM acquired Hughes Aircraft in 1985, forming the Hughes Electronics unit which consisted of Hughes Aircraft and Delco Electronics. Hughes Aircraft acquired General Dynamics' missile business in 1992 to form the Hughes Missile System Company. In 1994, Hughes Electronics combined three operations into the Hughes Aerospace and Electronics Company (still a unit of GM). In 1997, Raytheon acquired the military business of Hughes Electronics Corporation from General Motors for $9.5 billion. At least I think that's what happened :-)



I had a dual Pentium II board (made by Tyan, with an Adaptec Raid Option slot) but I don't recall ever seeing a dual P54C board. Did a mainstream motherboard maker ever release one, to your knowledge?



Pentium 60MHz was P5 though, not P54C ... if I'm not mistaken. IIRC the slowest P54C was the 75MHz one as they all had 1.5x multiplier or greater? Again, I wouldn't rule out my memory being wrong.



Wow, what a gem of a post. I knew about the Navajo codebreakers but didn't ever hear about the Shiprock connection.

I also am admiring how deftly the author was able to weave in (heh) little bits of low-level computer knowhow. This is an article I can send to my non-tech friends!



That story about Fairchild manufacturing at Shiprock is fascinating and heartbreaking. Glad to see it so thoughtfully researched and presented.



And as sad it is, they cycle as has repeated itself and its still a sad situation around Shiprock. I'm someone who lives within the general area and poverty is still saturating the Navajo community. To make things worse the oilfield in the area has shifted to Texas. And within the last year the Four Corners Power Plant (PNM) and Navajo Mine (BHP) have shut down. These have been 2 extremely large employers of the area for the Navajo people since the 70's. Lots of businesses in neighboring towns like Farmington and Gallup have shuddered. And a large amount of people (who could afford to) have moved to places like Phoenix and Denver so they don't get stuck being part of the situation.



As a programmer and Shepherdess I can tell you that sheep have enough intelligence as is. Contrary to popular belief they are not stupid but certainly have a very different world view.



This sounds like the backstory for Alan Dean Foster's "Cyber Way". I enjoyed the novel, didn't realize how well rooted it was in actual history.



I’ve long considered “hard tech” (semiconductors, high end manufacturing, aerospace, etc) to be the embodiment of our culture, because it’s not something you can just start doing, it takes generations of improvement to make anything worthwhile.



That is how I generally see it. The technological suite needed to get to that stage is astounding.

It is a great indicator of progress and decline, like how the quality of crockery dropped in the roman empire showed how their economics hampered their skills.

Maybe computing is one of the big hurdles that shows the overall capabilities of economies and on a much more broad scale, species. Like wrap drives in Star Trek.



Wow. They have got to turn this into a 99% Invisible podcast episode. (if you stopped at the weaving - which is incredible in its own right - you missed the much more amazing story)



This how I have always thought of the Giza plateau and other temple sites. They look like different digital components or circuits attached to each other. It was easy to convince myself that they were indeed designing some type of deep logic within the structures.



The oldest datasets produced by humans intended to be read by machines. With our advances in digital image processing one could argue a cross section of a tree trunk is a "machine readable dataset"



dobby looms are an automated version of draw looms. Some use a draw boy, small child in the loom itself to draw up the warps as required for the patter. Later shortened to dobby.



Speaking as an artist and a programmer, has it ever struck you how utterly low it is to sit in a room making things? You are interacting with little speck of dead stuff. Staring, unmoving, practically dead yourself. Playing with a little dream. There's something deeply wrong with that. Spiritually wrong even. Sometimes I reflect and feel shame at my wastefulness.



That's a remarkable question.

Have you, reader of this comment, ever created something that will subsequently never interact with a living being?

I don't think I have... except maybe when I've blinked Morse into the sky with a flashlight or laser.

There's always someone or something on the other end. I try to remember that.



Soeaking as an engineer, has it ever struck you how utterly low it is to sit in a room making art? Sculptural materials and paint is dead. Words are but faint echoes of human life.

Your comments are more a reflection upon your own worldview.

To improve things you merely need to change your own perceptions.



Hello, fellow artist+programmer (:

What do you think of the quote: "Whatever you do will be utterly insignificant, but it is very important that you do it" ?

Personally, I think playing with little dreams is beautiful, but I do hope you find something that satisfies your soul.

In my experience, artistry and a bit of depression often go hand-in-hand. If you spend a lot of time paying attention to things, you're bound to notice the Abyss.



"Gaze not into the abyss, lest you become recognized as an abyss domain expert, and they expect you keep gazing into the damn thing." —@[email protected]



Dead stuff is stuff without structure. I tend to think about my interactions with the universe as extending the structure that is me to dead stuff. Stuff is lifted to structuredness, and becomes part of us as a whole. I don't feel that's low at all.



Low and high are but you imposing your value system onto something that exists irrespective of it. "Low" could very well be the activity of breathing if one argues enough to show it. In reality actions don't and shouldn't exist to serve a higher purpose. Attachment with result is the cause of suffering. Attach yourself to the action.

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