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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43386253

Hacker News上的一篇帖子讨论了一篇揭露Facebook/Meta不良行为的报道。一些评论者认为这些爆料不足为奇,他们引用扎克伯格对名利的渴望、其有问题的个人细节以及之前已知的例如缅甸问题等事件。他们期待更多令人震惊的披露,例如直接滥用用户数据。 讨论随后转向了关于Facebook压制有关以色列-巴勒斯坦冲突信息的指控。一个用户将其斥为防止反以色列仇恨言论,而另一个用户则链接到一篇报道,该报道声称系统性地压制了亲巴勒斯坦内容。针对该报道的来源以及来自各方的宣传可能性提出了反驳意见。一位评论者质疑比尔·盖茨的动机,原因在于他的财富和权力。


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A Facebook Insider's Exposé Alleges Bad Behavior at the Top (archive.org)
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Two comments downplaying the grossness of the conduct of executives and one reply trying to discredit another whistleblower saying similar things.

For me, that's a worrying level of apathy towards and / or normalisation of what should be totally unacceptable behaviour.

This is the kind of attitude that gets Trump a second term even after his first.



I'm more shocked there really weren't any shocking revelation. It's pretty much what everyone expected.

- Zuckerberg wants people to like him.. okay..

- Weird personal details about lingerie budgets.. an insinuation about Sandberg having some homosexual relationship.. eye roll

- The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies (all the FANG don't want to hire moderators and want to solve everything with machines)

- They tried to work with the chinese government to get in to China. okay

I was expecting stuff like top VPs look at people's private messages willy nilly, or Zuckerberg makes sure supportive political condidates win in third world countries. Things that actually matter.

How boring.



It may be boring but we should continue to hold companies to a higher standard than excusing sexual harassment and social irresponsibility at global scale


  The Myanmar stuff we already knew about. It's bad. It seems negligent, but not like Zuckerburg wants to drown babies
Most people set the bar higher than 'does he want to drown babies'.


What about the allegations that Facebook is suppressing informating regarding the ongoing ethnic cleansing of Palestine?

Is that an eye roll as well in your book or is it newsworthy?



It‘s good that they are preventing the spread of fake news and anti-Israel hate content.

Pro Palestine propaganda is already incredibly pervasive and annoying anywhere you look online.

There can be a news article about Dubai chocolate and Palestine brainwashed bots will comment „…ok but what about PALESTINE?“



How would Palestine be able to afford bots?


heard of Iran once? or Qatar? or Russian propaganda machine?



They don‘t need any real bots, they have „leftists“, that are anything but left and the whole world wide Muslim population to spam for them.


Another source of allegations about the behaviour at Meta comes from 7amleh's report on how they systematically suppressed what Americans and others were allowed see about Israel's invasion of Palestine.

https://7amleh.org/storage/Advocacy%20Reports/Delete%20the%2...



This paper seems to mainly suggest that the suppression is happening on the internal platforms that Meta's employees and content-moderators use, for discussions, rather than that they're censoring what I would see an an end user?


Americans are one of the most, if not the most, propagandized populations on the planet, and the worst part is a large cohort of them fully believe they aren’t.


Don't forget the Germans.


Some more information about 7amleh: https://ngo-monitor.org/reports/7amlehs-gaslighting/


Some more information about ngo-monitor:

> NGO Monitor is a right-wing organization based in Jerusalem that reports on international NGO (non-governmental organisation) activity from a pro-Israel perspective.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NGO_Monitor



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The actual article title is:

"A Facebook Insider's Exposé Alleges Bad Behavior at the Top"

This comment would make more sense if the title were:

"A Facebook Insider's Shocking Exposé Alleges Surprisingly Bad Behavior at the Top"



Well, it's not really that surprising is it? It's mostly a clarification of what types of bad behaviour.

I haven't read the book, but from the article it seems like it's mostly inappropriate sexual behaviour and some stuff we already know, but apparent collectively decided that we don't care enough about to attempt to change how Meta operate.



Do you only read things that have shock value?


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Why do you mention Gates in particular?


If there's a person who used ALL his power to win every skirmish, no matter how unscrupulously, it was BG.

A guy that powerful and unscrupulous and also unattractive with that horrible voice only gets women because of money and power. And the only woman who could stand him enough to marry him (and have his kids) was no looker, yet divorced him with no press whatsoever.

That's the power of money. I suspect a lot of us nerds wouldn't've been nerds if we could get girls. Some of us grow up to be kind, grateful partners, but we likely didn't trample everyone underfoot to become a mega billionaire.

The silence that surrounds him smells like money, to me.



I read plenty of press about her giving him a hall pass and the boot over Epstein eventually.


Thanks for the details. I guess she got what she wanted; it would make sense that he would end up with a person just as cutthroat as himself.

And, yeah, it stands to reason that Epstein is the real reason for his radio silence.

My point still stands, however. I very much doubt that all his paid-for NDAs were for tech reasons.







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