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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43392303

Hacker News用户正在讨论Occupry,这是一项利用AI帮助租户协商更好租赁条款的服务。一些人对公司所有权缺乏透明度表示担忧,并质疑它实际上是否由房东运营。另一些人则质疑AI驱动的论点在谈判中的有效性,尤其是在竞争激烈的租赁市场中。一位用户甚至表示,如果租户试图使用它,他会将其驱逐。一些评论者强调了潜在的“非法行医”(UPL)问题以及租户通常在谈判中拥有的权力有限。有人建议9美元的服务费用太贵,一些人呼吁公开房东的不当行为记录。创建者jason_archmint将这项服务描述为租赁合同的深度研究,并寻求反馈。


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Occupry your next lease to negotiate a better deal (occupry.com)
10 points by jason_archmint 48 minutes ago | hide | past | favorite | 14 comments










Heads up, at least on macOS Safari all the header-ish text is a dark grey color. Pretty poor contrast (even to my non-disabled eyes!). Definitely doesn't look intended.


You'll get a lot of haters from the petite bourgeoisie tech landlord crowd here but this is a good idea. The more tools to help renters negotiate against the countless predatory landlords the better. Even better would be ways to report or put their malfeasance on public record. $9 is too expensive though.


No information about who owns this company. Given that it is very likely run by, in effect, landlords, I would be extremely suspicious of any advice it would give me as a tenant.


Neat idea, I wish there was some sort of demo or cases study to read through though - I really get turned off by these product billboard sites that are basically just funnel users into a CRM, or into marketing emails / video chats.

I just want to see what your product can do, not hear you tell me about it.

(I say this even though the company I’m working for relies on exactly these means to acquire new customers.)



Any time an AI product is advertised with something like "Legal Research Agents", a shiver goes up my spine.

I see the testimonials (though, I don't put much faith in "Jane Doe" and "Mike Smith" testimonials), however I'm pretty sure in my area anyone who attempts to negotiate (especially based on an AI-built argument) will be told to pound sand.

It's not a great market for renters here. Even blatantly illegal clauses are openly advertised all the time.



I own a duplex. Live on one side and rent the other. If my renter pulled this stunt on me, I'd show him the door.


> If my renter pulled this stunt on me, I'd show him the door

What’s the stunt? If they send you an AI markup, sure, that’s obnoxious if they didn’t do research to substantiate the suggested edits. But if they point out a clause that is illegal in your jurisdiction, that strikes me as a win-win.



Internet law: never disclose that you are a landlord


Me never wanting to live next door to my landlord caring a lot.


Occupry is DeepResearch for lease contract negotiation. AI reasoning agents review clause-by-clause, research local governing statutes and best practices, and compiles a strategic plan for negotiating the best deal - complete with redline suggestions and example communications to get better terms. Let me know what you think: [email protected]


Honestly, I think you’re going to run into UPL problems, and that residential renters typically have no power to negotiate lease terms.


They already have UPL problems, whether they realize it or not.


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Don't shoo the messenger.


honestly there should be a hall of fame award for wittiest hn comment and this would be up there






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