Remarkable that it seems to be only white woman victims that reach HN's front page. Implicit cultural acknowledgement that brown men *belong* in cages, chained "like Hannibal Lecter", or whatever the hyperbole of the day is.

For every human story about a European tourist, there's a thousand other stories some media circles will never acknowledge. Read testimonies from people who aren't born into the right ethnicity. (If you want content warnings about suicide attempts, this one has three different methods).

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigration/2025/02/25/guanta... ("Three migrants describe Guantánamo detention")

https://archive.is/KV3hr

I can't imagine why anyone would read this and think it's a good idea to come to the US for any reason in this current climate. There's nothing here worth seeing if it means you're going to be tortured for the opportunity.

Less extreme, but similar, a French researcher on his way to a conference was denied entry and his laptop and phone were searched and confiscated:

> The source said the scientist in the space sector underwent a random check on

> arrival, during which his work computer and personal phone were searched, and

> messages referring to Donald Trump's administration's treatment of scientists

> were found. Authorities told him they had found messages "that express hatred

> towards Trump and can be qualified as terrorism," the source said.

> His professional and personal equipment was confiscated and he was sent back

> to Europe the following day.

[0] https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2025/03/20/f...

Although less egregious at a glance, as a US citizen, I think that is pretty extreme and unprecedented in my lifetime (I'm 50) :-|

Similar things did happen after 9/11.

Odd, I thought this administration was all about free speech.

The price of having good border security is the odd legal greencard holder is detained for weeks and...

Oh wait I'm an actual human.

This is disgraceful. The fear and punishment is the point though, I guess to prevent all but certain people from even visiting the US temporarily.

We need to create a type of visa that has some kind of court-enforceable rights attached to it. Currently there seems to be no middle ground between citizen-with-full-rights and foreign-scum-with-no-rights. Travel for legitimate business and tourism just isn’t worth the risk right now.

There is one already and it’s called green card.

It’s not like current administration cares about it.

Green card is for permanent immigration, and hell even that is not secure as we've seen with the Mahmoud Khalil controversy [1].

[1] https://theconversation.com/can-the-trump-administration-leg...

We do, that's what the 14th amendment is about. Republicans don't care about this though, and they don't care about the courts. The law is can't fix anything when the people breaking it are also in charge of enforcing it.

or just not go? ¯\_(ಠ_ಠ)_/¯

To be clear, I don't mean "fuck you if you don't like it", I mean literally nobody should go to the USA (I'm a citizen) unless it's absolutely necessary.

I've been avoiding traveling to the US, and even doing stop-overs, at least since Trump first became president. You guys are a bit too enthusiastic about the whole police state / fascism thing, and have been ever since 9/11.

The point is obviously to terrorize people and create fear.

So the question is when will the US be sanctioned for this behavior?

If cannot happen legally then financially?

Are tourists really going to risk coming here because this is not the first story and it is only going to get worse.

Imagine by the Olympics in 2028 - are people REALLY willing to visit here and being subjected to this incredible risk?

Can't say "you'll be fine" because just any one encouter with law enforcement on a power-trip and you'll have no rights to how you are treated and how long you are disappeared.

They are building holding facilities at military bases all over the country and there will be motivation to fill them up.

There will be no lawyer access, no reporter access.

You'll just disappear until they decide what to do with you.

I predict strong Federal resistance to the Los Angeles Olympics taking place without individual incentives. The President making surprise appearances in dressing rooms for gender inspection, etc. Likewise, if the 2028 election is cancelled, I expect the only nations participating will be Russia and a newly-minted Gazan resort team.

He owns a massive resort/hotel near the Olympics and will want to fill that up and then bring himself to bill taxpayers millions for secret service, etc.

So the event will happen but I simply cannot believe I find myself hoping for a worldwide boycott, it's insanity.

But why would they cancel the election if they "know those vote counting computers" and no-one is going to stop them from putting on a pretend election like Russia does?

People can protest all they want, once they run out of migrants to fill the detention centers they will just move onto protesters since no-one could stop them the first time around.

ICE detainees are big business, at least for the private companies paid to keep them locked up.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2025/mar/19/canadian-det...

The checks and balance system has been compromised a little bit. Hope has dropped on congress to check the executive. SCOTUS should be checking next, but people believe they cannot be relied on because they are too conservative. Except CJ Roberts is now concerned about the executive branch assault on justice side. His stance is changing due to the need for C&B.

> The point is obviously to terrorize people and create fear.

This is a perfectly ambiguous point. On the one hand is the practice, which may or may not be novel. On the other is the story, which may or may not be clickbait intended as outrage-engagement.

On the other hand there's the president, whose said he's going to go on a mass deportation spree and treating anyone he doesn't like as illegal, but yeah who knows if this is just business as usual!?

Doesn't this sort of thing happen pretty much constantly?

Not that we shouldn't be talking about atrocities, but what changed?

They'll terrorize someone who does the chores typical of a houseguest (doing one's own bedding, taking part in the chore rotation), but they never seem to give this treatment to tech bro "digital nomads" who enter on tourist visas in impoverished countries like Thailand or Vietnam and do remote work in the exact same fields that could enrich the populace.

Nobody was going to do that housework except the household, wheras someone coding from a cafe in Bangkok is arguably absolutely stealing local jobs.

The "digital nomad" is typically employed, pays taxes etc in their home country. Locals don't have access to those jobs. They are accepted because they are economically just like tourists: they come and enjoy the ambience and spend their money, which comes from abroad.