One of the main devs for the Lemmy codebase, codes primarily this way.

The habits of prolific coders come in many flavours.

1. Here's the complete description: https://old.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/1jecn31/does... (old.reddit.com/r/linuxhardware/comments/1jecn31/does_it_count_as_linux_hardware_if_its_android_i/mihgxt8/)

2. See also: https://old.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/1j2g5gz/motorola_mot... (old.reddit.com/r/MotoG/comments/1j2g5gz/motorola_moto_g_play_2024_smartphone_termux/mgs67qz/)

What counts as real linux? Is it that it runs a linux kernel, or runs a linux-libre kernel, or has a desktop linux user space as opposed to the android user space or a GNU user space, is it because real linux is meant to be unpopular such as desktop linux being unpopular while android is popular?

Are you familiar with how cryptographers determine if some bit-stream is "truly" random? I'm talking about [Randomness tests], an open-ended set of rules, where failing just one will label such stream as "not random".

The only realistic way to reliably determine "real Linux" would be akin to that: If there is something that could be done on Fedora/Ubuntu/Arch/whatever, but not on system in question, that system is not a real Linux.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randomness_tests

when you try to install something and it tells you that dpkg is locked

One where you can write a bash script which changes network configuration and launches multiple programs installed from the app store

People don't call Android a "real linux" because you, as a user, aren't in actual control of the system: you can't root, you cant choose which system apps run on your system nor can you disable them, you can't change the underlying linux kernel.

You effectively are locked in by the OEM, who is the one that has higher privilege than the user. A real linux would allow the user to have actual control over their own system.

Termux does absolutely nothing to improve any of this.

I guess "real Linux"'s most arbitrary but concrete definition applicable for TFA is "glibc".

I am very much against this trend by major vendors to push Linux but just as a "VM" or similarly contained crap. MS is doing it (WSL), Google is doing it (pKVM Terminal), etc.

Okay, I get it now. So Linux that's treated like it's GPLv3 but is actually GPLv2 only by not locking down the bootloader or providing the necessary private keys to unlock it is real linux.

I can write whatever I want on this site.

It can only be flagged or deleted after it's been seen.

I can send as many of these messages as I want to a live audience.

@dang doesn't even know how to code.

All he can do is ban the account, but I can just create another.

They can ban the IP, but I can switch to a 2nd one. They only ban 1 IP at a time.

I can say whatever I want here and there's nothing anyone at HackerNews can do about it :)

I can write whatever I want on this site.

It can only be flagged or deleted after it's been seen.

I can send as many of these messages as I want to a live audience.

@dang doesn't even know how to code.

All he can do is ban the account, but I can just create another.

They can ban the IP, but I can switch to a 2nd one. They only ban 1 IP at a time.

I can say whatever I want here and there's nothing anyone at HackerNews can do about it :)