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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43520074

一篇Hacker News帖子讨论了一位用户Vizio电视意外播放全屏视频的情况,引发了关于隐私和广告行为的讨论。讨论指出了Vizio长期以来监控用户观看习惯和投放广告的历史,甚至在用户无法禁用的“风景模式”下也是如此。一些评论者认为这是一种反乌托邦趋势,也是补贴电视成本的一种手段。 用户提出了解决方案,包括在路由器级别屏蔽电视、购买“傻瓜”电视或使用投影仪来避免侵入式广告。讨论扩展到更广泛的问题,即“智能”电视被用作广告和数据收集平台,一些用户选择完全避免使用它们,转而采用更简单的设置。用户还提到了Vizio在个人数据收集和GPL违规方面面临的潜在法律问题。


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My TV started playing a video in full screen by itself. What happened? (vizio.com)
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I used to feel bad for South Dakotans. Now I feel bad for all of us.


God that’s another level of dystopian. Not just ads but political propaganda.


Geez, is someone paying George Orwell his due royalties...

Someone below mentioned Vizio monitoring your viewing habits. Looking forward to the SS to threaten TV manufacturers with tariffs unless they give up data on who watches a lot of foreign-language content, and who switches channel when dear leader or one of his oligarchs shows up on screen...



My TV occasionally turns on unexpectedly. I'm pretty sure it is the Xfinity Flex streaming box that is connected to it telling it to do so.

It used to happen between 3 and 4 am, if I remember correctly, and was very annoying because the TV is in the same room I sleep in.

I guessed that it might be the Flex box doing it after I remembered that the Flex box was scheduled do to automatic updates between 3 and 4 am. My guess was that sometimes when it reboots after an update it turned on the TV.

To check that I changed the update schedule to do them between 2 and 3 pm. Sure enough the unexpected turn ons then started happening between 2 and 3 pm which is pretty good evidence my guess about the Flex being responsible was right.



I seem to recall that Vizio was added to my "do not buy" list quite a long time ago, when it turned out they were monitoring your watching habit (https://www.theverge.com/2017/2/7/14527360/vizio-smart-tv-tr...).

This seems to be more of the same I guess. Choice text from the link above:

Q: Why did I see an ad in Scenic Mode?

A: After Scenic Mode launches to full screen, you may see ads. We offer free, scenic content by supporting it with ads. These ads allow VIZIO to offer enhanced, built-in Smart TV features, 300+ live channels, and 15,000+ movies and shows at no cost through WatchFree+ while also helping keep the price of our TVs accessible and competitive.

Q: Can I turn Scenic Mode ads off?

A: No, not at this time. These ads allow VIZIO to offer enhanced, built-in Smart TV features, 300+ live channels, and 15,000+ movies and shows at no cost through WatchFree+ while also helping keep the price of our TVs accessible and competitive.



Sure seems like a "wonderful" company. Their Wikipedia page lists the personal data collection lawsuit and them also likely being GPL violators at that with a court date in September this year:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vizio#Legal_issues



You can however turn scenic mode off which I would do immediately. That said, probably would never consider a Vizio tv.


All TVs at home are blocked by MAC on the wifi router, so there's definitely a way to turn off this bullshit.


It’s funny because I always remember the one time Vizio tried to become the Apple of PCs

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=4123166

(the actual Verge link needs to have mobile. removed or changed to www.)



I refuse to buy any “smart tv”. If that means going without a TV, then I’m going without one and will use the largest monitor I can use with a small beelink Linux box.

We’re prey for their bottom line as they can’t sell TV’s for a profit without running ads all over it. I’m done. I’m out. Back to books, vinyl, fresh press, gnu, board games, and going outside.



We bought a projector. Would definitely recommend this if you have a wall that works for it. No unsettling frame smoothing, a minute or two warm up that adds just enough friction and no smart functions or ads.


I have too much light but otherwise, great suggestion. Short throw laser projectors are the brightest I have seen but even they get washed out in this Florida sun.


This is why I haven't connected my smart TV to my WiFi. It just has a Google TV + HDMI from my PC. At least with Google TV, the only ads I see are random sportsball ads when YouTube has some partnership deal and those are easy enough to ignore.


Before anyone asks, you can buy a TV that’s dumb. Look on Sony or Samsung or business kiosk TVs. I bought some Sony kiosk TVs for conference rooms when building out an office ones. They can be left on forever have the same great quality and cost a little bit more. But they’re dumb in the end and they turn on fast.


You can buy a "smart" TV with ads for cheap, and get a generic replacement motherboard to dumb it down.


This is remarkably dystopian. ‘Bought our tv? We are going to show you ads and you can’t even turn it off’


It sounds like you can turn the feature off entirely, which seems semi reasonable — the ads support the updated scenic content, and you can opt out. but i’d bet it shows ads in other places too.


My favorite development is ads interrupted by ads.


This is most apparent when watching movie trailers.


It's like getting an unending dystopian sci-fi series, free with your TV. Guaranteed to be renewed every season. No risk of writers' strikes, cancellation, or preemption by sporting events.

"Scenic Mode does not require payment and is part of our mission to continually make your Smart TV better than when you bought it."

That'll teach me to buy a TV from Lumon Industries...







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