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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43676084

Hacker News 上关于“使用 Ollama 和 LangChain 快速入门 MCP”的讨论总结如下: 讨论的中心在于使用大型语言模型进行 Agent/MCP 开发的实际价值。虽然原帖旨在快速入门,但评论者 minimaxir 认为 Agent/MCP 开发感觉像是一团乱麻的复杂代码,本质上是低级的 ReAct 范式加上夸大的宣传,反而可能会让人困惑。 其他人讨论了大型语言模型在根据用户输入选择正确的函数或工具方面的应用。一些人强调了 MCP 的用例,特别是针对本地 IDE 集成,但也指出了在更强大的应用程序中关于安全性和多用户支持的重大缺陷。他们批评了 MCP 服务器缺乏安全性和身份验证功能,以及 API 密钥管理方面的挑战。一位评论者请求提供解决这些问题的替代方法。大家普遍认为这项技术仍处于早期阶段。链接网站的设计也被赞扬为“回归过去”。

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    Quick Primer on MCP Using Ollama and LangChain (polarsparc.com)
    53 points by bswamina 4 hours ago | hide | past | favorite | 9 comments










    In the case of MCPs, this post is indeed a quick primer. But from a coding standpoint, and despite the marketing that Agent/MCP development simplifies generative LLM workflows, it’s a long coding mess that is hard to tell if it’s even worth it. It’s still the ReAct paradigm at a low level and if you couldn’t find a case for tools then, nothing has changed other than the Agent/MCP hype making things more confusing and giving more ammunition to AI detractors.


    This website design is blessed. A great return to the past


    Even name takes us back in time - SPARC


    If you need to define and write the functions to calculate interest… what exactly is the llm bringing to the table here? I feel like I’m missing something.


    The LLM is what decides which endpoint/tool to call (or none at all) in response to the user input.

    The original 2022 ReACT paper is still best explainer: https://arxiv.org/abs/2210.03629



    maybe some of these could be fit? https://python.langchain.com/docs/tutorials/


    MCP is great for when you’re integrating tools locally into IDEs and such. It’s a terrible standard for building more robust applications with multi-user support. Security and authentication are completely lacking.

    99% of people wouldn’t be able to find the API keys you need to feed into most MCP servers.



    What, according to you, are some alternatives that exist or are in development that fill these gaps?


    You are correct ... it is still early days IMHO ... will have to see how this evolves






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