Eurorack旋钮创意
Eurorack Knob Idea

原始链接: https://mitxela.com/projects/euroknob

Mitxela 构思了一个名为“Eurorack旋钮创意”的方案,它结合了Eurorack合成器上的旋钮和连接线,旨在减少模块设计中的妥协。这个概念使用一个嵌入小型磁铁的3.5mm TRS插头,与放置在插座下方的AS5600磁编码器相互作用。编码器将磁铁的旋转转换为电压信号,从而控制参数。 Mitxela 通过改装TRS插头和3D打印定制旋钮制作了原型。他设计了一个电路板来容纳插座下方的AS5600,并测试了其功能。虽然对原型感到满意,但他不确定其商业可行性,因为大规模实施需要大量投资。他建议了一个更简单的替代方案:带同轴TRS插座的电位器。 他设想了一个专注于此概念的小众群体(“Euroknobists”),但也承认保护产品不被廉价复制以及高昂的制造成本所带来的挑战。虽然他缺乏将这一想法付诸实施的创业动力,但他欢迎合作和资金支持,以实现这一创意。

Hacker News 的一个帖子讨论了一个“Eurorack旋钮”的创意——一个可以拔出用作补丁线,或者插入插孔以设置固定值的旋钮。其核心概念是节省 Eurorack 模块的空间。 评论者们讨论了现有的解决方案,例如与插孔相关的衰减器和偏移量,并指出衰减器-偏移组合是理想的,但会占用空间。一些人喜欢节省空间的想法,而另一些人则强调触觉界面的重要性,并避免通过功能进行“菜单潜水”。 讨论探讨了各种变化,包括衰减转换器、“衰减随机器”(Beads),以及结合额外的控制维度,例如可旋转的拇指杆。 一些人质疑其相对于现有解决方案的价值主张,强调高质量的触觉电位器相对便宜且可预测。关于用户是修补匠还是音乐家,也进行了简短的辩论。 一个讨论点涉及软件可配置旋钮电阻的潜力。有人考虑将其用于使钢琴键盘上的错误按键难以按下以进行训练,或修改现有钢琴的按键速度。
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  • 原文
    Back to Hardware24 Apr 2025
    Progress: Complete

    Last year I designed a eurorack module, as a collaboration with Dave Cranmer. When I say designed it, I mean we got about 90% of the way there, then got distracted. With any luck, that module will get finished and released sometime soon.

    But it had me thinking about Eurorack and the weird compromises people often make to fit more and more modules into a tiny case. I know a thing or two about tiny synthesizers. But my creations are often whimsical and useless. When it comes to Eurorack, where people spend crazy amounts of money on their setups, it's weird to see people compromise on the main aspect that gives it an edge over simulating the whole thing in software.

    To clean up our Eurorack panels, perhaps we need a new knob idea? Watch the following video for a prototypical demo.

    In essence, we're using a 3.5mm jack in front of a magnetic encoder chip, and a small magnet embedded in the plug turns it into a knob and patch cable hybrid.

    The magnetic encoder in question is an AS5600. These are not the cheapest parts but they do make prototyping very easy. It has two hall sensors in an XY configuration and a dollop of DSP to give us an angle and a magnitude. They're easily available on breakout boards and have an i2c interface.

    AS5600 breakout board

    The board also comes with a specially polarised magnet with the field across the diameter instead of axially. We're not going to use that.

    Building the knob

    I started by taking a dremel cutting disk to the end of a TRS plug. This was just done by eye. Edge-on, it's not quite centred but it'll work fine.

    Edge-on view of the slot in the TRS plug

    This cheap plug is in fact partially hollow, and is made from plated brass.

    End-on view of the slot in the TRS plug

    Into this slot I glued a small neodymium magnet. It's 2mm diameter, 1mm thickness. I also bought some 2mm thickness magnets, but that would need a slightly wider slot, which would probably require a more precise cutting method.

    I used a medium viscosity cyanoacrylate glue. Once set, the excess can be scraped away with a razor blade.

    Magnet glued into plug

    I turned away the threaded section, trimmed the metal tab, and 3D printed a filler piece so the back of the plug is just a straight cylinder to which we can fit a knob.

    3D printed extension fitted

    And to that, we fitted the knob. The 3D printed plastic is quite pliable, so the set screw embeds itself a little and gets a solid grip.

    Knob fitted, magnetic knob complete

    Circuit design

    I was unsure if the tiny magnet would be sufficient, and how close it would need to be held to the soic-8 sensor chip. I did some tests, just holding this magnetic knob over one of the breakout boards.

    There's both a PWM output and a DAC on the AS5600, with the idea that we can use it, once configured, to output an analog voltage. I had a assumed there was some zero-config mode that would just turn magnetic fields into voltages, but it seems we need to set it up via i2c to get any output. If that's the case, for the sake of this test we might as well just read out the angle via i2c as well.

    After a few experiments I was convinced it was going to work, so I set about building a circuit board that could house the AS5600 under a TRS socket.

    A common style of vertical-mount TRS socket looks like this (I believe it's a PJ398SM):

    TRS socket

    With our magnetic knob fitted, we can see that there's almost zero clearance between the tip of the TRS plug and the plane of the circuit board.

    Magnetic knob fitted into socket, view from below

    There might be a vertical-mount TRS jack out there somewhere that has enough clearance underneath it, but the through-mount pins are long enough here that we can just lift up the socket off the board. I considered 3D printing or laser-cutting a frame to elevate it, but better still is to use PCB material (FR4) as we can tack it onto the same circuit board order.

    The height of the AS5600 is about 1.47mm; a 1.6mm board will work nicely. There are some diagrams in the datasheet illustrating how the magnet should be situated relative to the chip.

    Figure 35 from AS5600 datasheet

    Figure 40 from AS5600 datasheet

    I stacked the two part footprints, and then laid out a second version of the socket footprint with a cutout for the chip.

    KiCad screenshot

    I like to model the board outline exactly, with a 2mm endmill in mind, it makes it explicitly clear what we expect to receive from the board house. If you specify tight inside corners, they will probably use their judgement as to how tight a corner you were expecting. Drawing these out in KiCad is a bit tedious, but at this point I'm used to it.

    KiCad screenshot

    I optimistically added a CH32V003 and a bunch of LEDs so we can show the value. I also chucked the usual clamping diodes and ~100K input impedance, made of 33K and 66K resistors, which divide a 0-5V signal down to 0-3.3V.

    Since the encoder chip will be buried, I also added pads underneath so that if it comes to it, we can probe any leg of the chip.

    The design was blasted off to China and a short while later the boards were in my hands.

    Assembly and test

    Assembly was uneventful. I was especially careful to get the AS5600 perfectly centred on the pads.

    I broke off the lower part of the board, filed the tabs flush, and fitted it over the top half using the possibly superfluous alignment pins, into which I soldered some bits of wire.

    Assembled board before final component fitted

    And then we solder the TRS socket on top of that.

    Assembled board with socket fitted

    It is a little tricky to capture the white board on a white background.

    Prototype displayed on a wooden surface

    Programming the CH32V003 was routine. A little massaging of the i2c, coaxing up the ADC, graphing on the LEDs, eye of newt and Bob's your uncle.

    The encoder chip reads the field strength, and we can use this to detect the presence of our knob. I had wondered if ordinary patch cables would have some stray magnetism but they seem to usually be made of nonferrous metals. Anyway, when our knob is connected the strength reads around 2000 units, on a scale of up to 4095. Ordinary cables read zero or occasionally 1, so I don't think there's any ambiguity. Marvellous.

    Conclusion

    I'm pretty pleased with how the prototype turned out, but I also don't expect to take this any further.

    Prototype held in hand

    It's a nice dream, of a synthesizer where any knob can be pulled out and replaced with a patch cable, and any jack can have a knob plugged into it to set it to a fixed value. Whether it's actually practical to build a synth like this I'm unsure. It would probably only be worthwhile if you applied it to every single control on the modular, which rules out using other people's modules. You would have to invest heavily into the Eurorack Knob Idea. You couldn't even port other modules that easily, as many of them would expect a real potentiometer, whereas the encoder can only produce a voltage. Coupling it with a voltage-controlled potentiometer would work, but would be even more expensive.

    I'm starting to envision a cult of Eurorack Knob Idea Enthusiasts, or Euroknobists: those who only build modular synths with the Euroknob principle. It's a beautiful dream – a very expensive, but beautiful dream.

    The first few people I showed this to insisted I should patent it, but that's a costly process that I just haven't the heart to embark on. I would like to patent some of my inventions, one day, but realistically the main thing I'd want to defend my ideas from is people in China churning out cheap copies which is not something I think I could ever prevent.

    To be serious for a moment, this magnetic solution is possibly not a commercially viable idea, but a potentiometer with a coaxial TRS jack would sell like the hottest of cakes. As a mechanical solution, it wouldn't need any alterations to existing schematics to fit it, and it would be immediately obvious which knobs are hybrids as the jack would always be on view (I'm picturing a Euroknob setup where not all knobs are Euroknobs, and the user is unsure how hard to yank). To produce it, all we'd need is a big pile of money and a cooperative factory in the far east.

    Unfortunately, as is perhaps becoming painfully obvious, the adeptness with which I can manipulate electronics is not a skill transferable to entrepreneurship. If anyone wants to fund this idea – and do most of the heavy lifting when it comes to the paperwork – please reach out!

    Hardware and software sources for this project are on github and git.mitxela.com.

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