特斯拉Robotaxi发生3起更多事故,总计7起。
Tesla Robotaxi had 3 more crashes, now 7 total

原始链接: https://electrek.co/2025/11/17/tesla-robotaxi-had-3-more-crashes-now-7-total/

特斯拉在德克萨斯州奥斯汀推出的“Robotaxi”服务自六月底启动以来,已发生七起报告的事故。尽管行驶里程相对较低(约25万英里),并且车内有监管人员,但事故仍发生。由于允许监管人员坐在副驾驶位置,该公司现在必须向国家公路交通安全管理局(NHTSA)报告这些事件。 最近的报告详细说明了九月份发生的另外三起事故,涉及一名自行车骑行者、一辆行驶中的车辆和一只动物。此前,七月份已报告四起事故,其中一起造成轻微伤。值得注意的是,特斯拉对事故描述进行了大量删减,阻碍了公众对事件和责任的理解。 这使得特斯拉的事故率大约是Waymo的两倍,尽管车内有监管人员作为安全保障。虽然这些监管人员可能阻止了许多事故的发生,但目前的事故率——大约30万英里发生七起事故——引发了担忧,超过了普通人类驾驶员大约70万英里发生一起事故的平均水平。

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原文

Tesla reported three more crashes involving its Robotaxis in Austin, Texas – now bringing the total to 7 incidents despite low mileage and in-car supervisors preventing more accidents.

Since the launch of the ‘Robotaxi’ service in Austin, Texas, where Tesla moved the supervisor from the driver’s seat to the passenger seat, it now has to report crashes to NHTSA.

In the first month of operation in July, Tesla reported three crashes with its Robotaxi service.

The automaker reported one more Robotaxi crash last month, and this one was interesting because it coincided with Tesla announcing that the Robotaxi fleet had traveled 250,000 miles from its launch in late June to early November.

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It revealed Tesla’s current Robotaxi crash rate, which is about 2x higher than Waymo’s, despite in-car supervisors that prevent an unknown number of crashes.

Now, Tesla has reported to NHTSA three more incidents that happened with the Robotaxi fleet in Austin in September:

Report ID Incident Date Incident Time (24:00)City State   Crash With   Highest Injury Severity Alleged SV Pre-Crash Movement CP Pre-Crash Movement    Narrative       
13781-11787 SEP-202513:08Austin   TX              Animal                   No Injured Reported           Stopped     NM Crossing Roadway [REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11786 SEP-202503:43Austin   TX  Non-Motorist: Cyclist Property Damage. No Injured Reported        Stopped    Moving Alongside Roadway[REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11784 SEP-202520:42Austin   TX          Passenger CarProperty Damage. No Injured Reported   Proceeding Straight    Backing[REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11687 SEP-202501:25Austin    TX    Other Fixed ObjectProperty Damage. No Injured Reported      Making Left Turn    NaN[REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11507 JUL-202503:45Austin    TX         SUV      Property Damage. No Injured Reported           Stopped     Proceeding Straight[REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11459 JUL-202512:20Austin    TX    Other Fixed Object           Minor W/O Hospitalization  Other, see Narrative    NaN[REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]
13781-11375 JUL-202515:15Austin    TX      SUV         Property Damage. No Injured Reported     Making Right Turn    Making Right Turn [REDACTED, MAY CONTAIN CONFIDENTIAL BUSINESS INFORMATION]

Unlike other companies reporting to NHTSA, Tesla abuses the right to redact data reported through the system. The automaker redacts the “narrative” for each reported crash, preventing the public from knowing how the crashes happened and who is responsible.

Based on the limited information in Tesla’s reports, we know that one of the new crashes involved a Robotaxi driving into a car backing up, another involved a cyclist, and the last one involved an unknown animal.

My favorite thing about reporting on those is the messages from Tesla fans who say: You don’t know how many of those Robotaxi are responsible for?

It’s funny because I agree, but whose fault is that? Tesla could do like every other company and report the narratives.

Waymo does, and it’s clear that it isn’t responsible for many of the crashes they are involved in. I am sure that’s the case with some of those Tesla Robotaxi crashes.

However, Waymo has hundreds of millions of rider-only autonomous miles, and Tesla has a few hundred thousand, all with a supervisor on board, a finger on a killswitch, ready to prevent further crashes. Who knows how many more crashes Tesla would have had without them?

I expect a few because humans generally have a crash, whether they are at fault or not, every 700,000 miles. Tesla has 7 in probably ~300,000 miles, which should be worrying to anyone, whether the Robotaxis were responsible or not.

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