垃圾就是垃圾。
Slop Is Slop

原始链接: https://daringfireball.net/2025/12/slop_is_slop

在蒂姆·库克圣诞节前夜发布一张署名艺术家凯斯·汤姆森的图片,以宣传Apple TV+剧集《Pluribus》后,关于该图片是否使用了人工智能的问题浮出水面。汤姆森的回应模棱两可,他表示“总是手绘”,但“会使用标准数字工具”,留下人工智能参与的可能性。 这张图片引发了争论,一些人猜测这可能是对《Pluribus》主题的一种刻意隐喻,因为该剧探讨了类似的概念。然而,许多评论家认为这幅作品 просто 不好看,类似于经常被批评的“人工智能垃圾”。 虽然承认人工智能*可以*创作出真正的艺术品,但作者认为这张图片达不到标准,暗示苹果可能被误导,为以原创艺术形式呈现的人工智能生成作品支付了费用。由于其质量低下,普遍的观点倾向于认为该图片是由人工智能生成的,而不是复杂的艺术声明。

这场 Hacker News 的讨论围绕着一件被认为是“垃圾”的艺术品,以及 AI 生成的艺术是否能真正被认为是“好的”艺术。 初始帖子链接到一篇名为“垃圾就是垃圾”的文章,引发了关于 AI 生成图像的质量和内在本质的争论。 一些评论者认为,真正*糟糕*的艺术不可能出自人类艺术家之手,暗示 AI 才是令人不悦结果的唯一责任方。 另一些人则指出了过度依赖 AI 的潜在风险,提到了“AI 精神病”。 一个关键论点浮出水面:一些人认为 AI 艺术本质上是“垃圾”,*因为*它的来源,缺乏定义真正艺术价值的品质。 反驳观点认为,“垃圾”美学可以是故意的,作为对 AI 和艺术本身的评论,仅仅根据其外观来否定它会贬低人类的艺术创作。
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原文

Some follow-up on the looks-like-AI-slop “painting” Tim Cook posted on Twitter/X on Christmas Eve to promote the Pluribus season finale. Slashdot contacted the credited artist, Keith Thomson, and quoted this interaction with him:

Slashdot: I just wanted to confirm that that’s your work... If it is your work, can you say anything about what software you used when creating the image?

Thomson: I’m unable to comment on specific client projects. In general, I always draw and paint by hand and sometimes incorporate standard digital tools.

That is a non-denial denial that he used generative AI to create the image.

Dwayne Cubbins at PiunikaWeb also contacted Keith Thomson and got this statement:

The artist, Keith Thomson, responded to my request for a comment, stating that they “always draw by hand and sometimes incorporate standard digital tools.”

That is the same non-denial denial, because “standard digital tools” might include generative AI.

MG Siegler wonders if it’s a deliberate allegory to some of the themes from the show, writing:

Keith Thomson using AI to produce art that’s like Keith Thomson’s art because it’s trained on Keith Thomson’s art. How’s that for a mindfuck?

I’m sure I’m reading wayyyy too much into that tweet (and retweet), but given my previous post about Pluribus as an AI allegory, I think it’s sort of interesting to think about in that context.

MG’s posts have some spoilers re: Pluribus, so follow those links at your own risk. Pluribus is best enjoyed if you start watching it knowing as little about it as possible. But without spoiling anything, I think MG didn’t put enough y’s in the wayyyy in “I’m sure I’m reading wayyyy too much into that tweet”. There is no 3D chess being played here.

I wrote just a few months ago that I firmly believe generative AI tools not only can be, but already are, used to create genuine art. My problem with AI slop isn’t the AI, it’s the slop. Whatever “standard digital tools” Keith Thomson used to create this, the result is a turd.

Pluribus, among numerous other merits, is a beautifully filmed show. Thomson’s published paintings are beautiful. The image Tim Cook posted on Twitter/X (and which the Apple TV account retweeted) is ugly and awkward. It either is AI-generated slop or it looks like AI-generated slop for no artistic or thematic reason whatsoever. Occam’s razor would suggest the conclusion that it simply is AI-generated slop, and Keith Thomson suckered Apple into paying for it.

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