That's the problem - in the US there's an abundance of surplus electronics equipment at low prices. In Europe there isn't, and it's priced too high.

I.e. the problem is not the market venue, it's the amount of available stuff.

Which is a direct consequence of the local purchasing power and consumer spending habits.

Consumer electronics are cheaper in the US, and Americans have a lot more disposable income and a lot more inclination to buy into the latest trend or to experiment with latest and greatest gadgets, even if they don't need it so the used market is full of great stuff at bangout prices.

Consumer electronics cost more in Europe and Europeans are also poorer and need to be more frugal with their spending so the used market has fewer new stuff at rock bottom prices.

Prices in the EU are higher for the same things.

Why then do you think Apple launched the Vision Pro only in the US and not in Europe if you think everything is the same? Why do gaming consoles first launch in the US and only after in Europe if the market is the same according to you?

It seems like the consumer electronics manufacturers know the markets better than you when they base their sales and marketing decisions.

>There's no euroblock-wide price fixing going on.

There is, it's called MSRP and manufactures have one for USA, Canada, EU, UK at every major product launch.

https://www.reddit.com/media?url=https%3A%2F%2Fpreview.redd....

You needlessly insist on pointless semantics in hopes of scoring a cheap "gotcha" over an argument you already lost while my point wasn't to prove you wrong but to share the truth.

* US Boston / New England area -- MIT Swapfest, http://w1mx.mit.edu/flea-at-mit/

It was when people were still using phone modems, and I recall that every time a new speed came out, all of the businesses swapped them out immediately. On a couple of occasions, I was able to get a previous generation modem for like 5 bucks from some guy who had a trailer heaped with them.

Also, there were piles of Apple Macs shortly after System 7.5 came out. I barely had to buy any new computer gear during the time I lived there.

Weather-wise, I preferred winter, because during the summer, it got really sweaty and stinky.

BTW, you probably know this, but just for HN: some of the vendors and shoppers will be calibrated a bit differently than average, so there might be miscommunication, or awkwardness, or different conventions, to get past.

A few years ago at Swapfest, a friend and I met up there, as vendors were packing up, and one of the vendors in the parking garage was having trouble starting their truck, dead battery. So, maybe because my friend thought the vendor might be averse to asking for help, she quietly went and asked another nearby vendor with a vehicle, if they could give a jump, and they cheerfully did.

(Friend is a former military officer, who had also gone to MIT, and who exemplifies some of the best of tech industry leadership, including Knowing Your Nerds.)

https://www.arrl.org/hamfests-and-conventions-calendar

Note I have found searching by city and state is broken. You need to search by zipcode.

The coolest part was someone brought a Gemini lander to sell!

The first one of 2025 is on March 9th.

Kinda encouraging me to clear out my garage to bring new junk, err, stuff in there.

Would love to see a follow-up on what interesting items were brought there...

Good luck!

Our event person at c-base ligi also suggested to idea of having a small show and tell time permitting for really cool items that have a story to them.

I did not know about c-base either. Are there similar associations throughout Europe? I'd love to join one — seems to have a very cool hacker-y spirit :)

Generally you can find some sort of space in nearly every city.

https://wiki.hackerspaces.org/List_of_Hackerspaces

https://web.archive.org/web/20250214091402/https://wiki.hack... (mirror as the wiki is slow to load right now).

https://www.ccc.de/en/club/erfas

It is really hard to get second hand electronics and equipment in this city if you don't want to go online. Sign me up for the next one!

Any idea how non-german-speaker friendly this will be? The hackerspace website is german only, but I'm hoping we can expect most attendees / sellers to speak english?

A majority of events are in English there, one tonight was all in English as well.

We have limited space at c-base and I want to be respectful of their fire code!

Btw one could get company sponsorship for a ewaste container so that one doesn’t have to take stuff back home - after all it’s the big companies that produce this stuff and then make it redundant. Perhaps ewaste could be segregated by company to see who is the biggest “offender” - I’m sure there’s many a Fritz box lying around…

Back in the day I loved to visit these kinds of shows in the Timmonium, Maryland area. Went to Gaithersburg once, too. If you were motivated to dig through cardboard boxes of cables and miscellaneous stuff, you could spend the entire day there. But as the internet grew they got smaller every year, to the degree that there wasn't much of a point anymore.

While I never got to one, I recall Columbus, Ohio having the biggest show in the mid-Atlantic. Wonder if they're still a thing?

And as it's slightly on topic, a brief humorous story. At least one of the two annual Timonium shows was sponsored by the local Ham Radio (amateur radio) club. This was common because (I suppose) the radio clubs were typically bigger and more organized than the computer clubs. When I was in my 20's it was a rite of passage for some of my friends to get their Ham Radio license.

Fast forward to around 2007 and my sister and I are driving to Phoenixville in eastern Pennsylvania for Blobfest. Getting off topic, but it's an annual celebration of the classic 1958 sci-fi/horror film The Blob.

On the way back I notice a sign on the side of the road that reads "Ham Fest Today". I go a little crazy, telling my sister, "Turn there! Turn there!! I have to see this!!!" We turn and it's a bust. The show was the previous weekend and somebody forgot to take down the sign.

We get back on the road. About a minute later she turns to me, completely innocently and wide-eyed, saying, "I had NO IDEA how much you liked ham!"

Hope it goes really well!

Yeah c-base crew was incredibly adamant about that, they used to have people leaving stuff there or bringing them electronics, they’ve got closets of switches.

As you said the deposit will handle it, worst case if someone brings a 19” rack that will be used to bring it to the tip

We’ll be using this microsite for now for updates, but will likely spin up a bluesky account for the swapfest!