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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43608422

一篇关于市政消防车和机场消防车区别的文章在Hacker News上引发了讨论,话题很快转向城市规划和基础设施。一位评论者引用了“不仅仅是自行车”(Not Just Bikes)的一个视频,该视频认为大型消防车需要宽阔的道路,这无意中鼓励了更快的行驶速度。这引发了对美国城市规划更广泛的批评,并与荷兰和日本进行了比较,这两个国家普遍使用更窄的道路和更小的消防车。用户jonpurdy强调,优先考虑大型车辆和路边停车会导致道路设计效率低下。另一位评论者brudgers补充说,美国的机场消防作业遵循其自身具体的NFPA标准,这些标准涵盖设备和消防员资格。最后,potato3732842指出,机场消防部门和市政消防部门的法规环境和激励机制存在显著差异。

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    The Difference Between Municipal Fire Trucks and Airport Fire Trucks (piercemfg.com)
    7 points by taubek 1 hour ago | hide | past | favorite | 4 comments










    Somewhat related, Not Just Bikes / Jason Slaughter talked about how large fire trucks create the need for wide roads, which enables normal car drivers to go at high speeds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j2dHFC31VtQ (27m24s) [2024-08-11]


    It's absolutely nuts to me that US cities (like in Sunset in SF with 50 foot wide roads) accommodate giant fire trucks in addition to both sides having street parking (and driveways and garages!) instead of having narrower roads with smaller trucks (like in Netherlands and Japan, which were discussed in that video).

    NJB also has a video※ about Japan's tiny streets (relative to USA) that elaborates on how a single factory (street width) can improve so much about a place.

    ※ - https://youtu.be/jlwQ2Y4By0U



    In the US, Airport fire operations have their own NFPA Standard

    https://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/nfpa-440-standard-d...

    And their own standard for fire fighter qualification

    https://www.nfpa.org/codes-and-standards/nfpa-1003-standard-...



    The airport truck is gonna be operated in a different regulatory setting under different incentives than the municipal truck. That counts for something.






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