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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43510383

Hacker News正在讨论一篇《新闻周刊》的文章,该文章声称加拿大与美国之间的航班预订量下降了70%。 加航对数据的准确性提出了质疑。评论员将此下降归因于多种因素,包括更严格的边境执法、不利的汇率以及政治紧张局势。一些人对关税以及美国领导层构成的感知威胁表示担忧,其中一人认为特朗普的行动可能是故意制造不稳定。其他人则推测其背后有不可告人的动机,包括为俄罗斯利益服务或个人经济利益。一位评论员提到加拿大公共广播公司在假设美国政府试图关闭其的情况下制定的应急计划。一些用户仍然报告了积极的旅行体验,强调了良好的天气和与美国人的友好互动。


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Flight bookings from Canada to the US plummet over 70% (newsweek.com)
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Important to note that Air Canada is denying the magnitude of the drop: https://thepointsguy.com/news/airlines-cut-canada-flights-bo...

> Air Canada, the largest airline by seats between the U.S. and Canada, disagrees with the analysis. > "We can confirm that [the preliminary OAG data] is not reflective of Air Canada's booking patterns, nor the state of the market, based on all information sources available to us," an Air Canada spokesperson said.



As much as people are putting this on tariffs, I would not be surprised if a big contributor to this is actually the increase in people being detained on the border. Stricter immigration enforcement can be a huge deterrent to travel.


Canadian here: I don't know how anyone can be surprised.


Decidedly not surprised, at least on my end. I wouldn't want to visit a country whose leadership is casually hinting at colonizing me and weaponizing tariffs either.


The "country" is hinting? What exactly does that look like? The Americans I just spent a week with were lovely.


I'll edit; the leadership is hinting.


Victoria-based Canadian here. Just back from a week in Palm Springs and a road trip to Disneyland. Met lots of visiting Canadians and talked to lots of Americans. Much of the discussion was around the horrible currency exchange rate. Why doesn't the article get into that?


Who would have thought that actively antagonizing one of our biggest trading partners while also hitting them with a bunch of tariffs to use as some leverage to try get them to join the US would make them unlikely to want to visit the US?

It's almost like nearly everyone on earth thought it was really dumb except Donald Trump.



If you look at this from the perspective of Trump wanting to destabilize the USA geopolitically and internally (for whatever reason), it seems he's been incredibly successful. I'm not saying Trump is smart but if you look at this from another angle he's incredibly effective.


I mean, that's the most positive spin for it I've ever heard. Maybe he's shorted every major company in the US that would be affected by these stupid tariffs.


There are many people who think Trump is a Russian asset. If you look at it that way, he's been pretty great for Putin.



I have friends who work for CBC/Radio Canada (public broadcaster here).

Someone recently asked at an all hands meeting whether there were contingency plans if Trump tried to shut down the CBC by telling AWS to cut their servers (they apparently use AWS).

No shit that travel is down. People casually ponder in conversation up here whether there will be a war with the USA. Our newspaper of record has published op-eds saying Canada needs nuclear weapons.



Why would you want to visit a country that's actively threatening to annex you?


"We had a valid trade agreement that we negotiated, but now we will tariff your economy into recession. Or you can join us."

"You don't want to join us? Have more tariffs!"

"You are fighting back with tariffs? Have more tariffs!"

"You are discussing increasing trade with others? What happened to our friendship?!"



I'm one such person. I just visited because the weather was incredible and the people were/are fabulous.


Maybe you should ask that question to all the people in Taiwan that traveled to the mainland.






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