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原始链接: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43610573

Hacker News 的一个帖子讨论了 stratechery.com 上关于贸易、关税和技术的一篇文章。评论者们担心这篇文章的观点低估了当前贸易政策潜在的负面后果,有人认为这篇文章似乎预料到未来与中国的战争会成为一个缓解因素。另一位评论者批评了将关税视为能振兴美国产业的“猛药”的观点,认为关税反而可能会通过增加成本和降低美国公司在外国市场的竞争力来损害它们,尤其是在人工智能和制造业等领域。他们还认为特朗普政府错过了追求放松管制等促进增长的政策的机会。最后,一位评论者认为,美国政府容易借贷并不迫使其出现赤字,这是一个政治选择。另一位评论者强调,特朗普忽视了专家关于让美国为与中国竞争做好准备的建议,导致了一场公关灾难。


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Trade, Tariffs, and Tech (stratechery.com)
24 points by swolpers 1 hour ago | hide | past | favorite | 4 comments










Sane-washing like this is already dangerous even before you figure in that a surprising amount of it seems to be predicated on starting a war with China in the near future.

I guess that's the only plausible scenario they can think of that somewhat eclipses this self-inflicted disaster and makes it seem like a mere bump in the road by rhetorical comparison.



Everyone seems to be saying it's "tough medicine" and will help bring industry back to the USA, but what if the reverse is true?

The tariffs hit American companies hardest - it is companies in the USA actually paying the tariffs, and it's paid on every step of importing in the supply chain.

People are acting like Ford and GM will bring back the factories and make America great again, but it's just as likely that the other countries lower their trade barriers and while Ford is stuck dealing with the hit from tariffs, BYD etc. just take all of their market share internationally - as they aren't affected.

This might actually accelerate the decline of US industry, as manufacturers cannot move their entire supply chain to the US overnight (and wouldn't keep the same profit margins even if it were possible), meanwhile they become much less competitive in foreign markets. E.g. when OpenAI is stuck paying tariffs on GPUs, then DeepSeek will be even more competitive. Same for Boeing vs. AirBus and COMAC.

> Third, there are a lot of other things the Trump administration could be doing, particularly in terms of relieving regulation, ensuring equal opportunity throughout the economy, etc. It seems like a missed opportunity to be burning political capital on deficit reduction and trade rebalancing when there are major pro-growth opportunities still available. This seems particularly pertinent given the rise of AI, which has very high variance in terms of potential outcomes.

I agree with this completely, I'm surprised Trump didn't couple it with a bonfire of NIMBY regulation to help jump-start domestic growth that way too.



>This meant there was inelastic demand for U.S. treasuries, which basically made it impossible for the U.S. to not run a deficit, either in terms of trade or the federal budget.

Ease of borrowing does not force a government to run a deficit, which is entirely a political choice.



If fixing trade was the goal of these tariffs, Trump had other, better options. He did not listen to policy advisors who have spent a long time writing about how to prepare the US for a war with China and rebalancing global trade. This is why it’s been a PR disaster, not because it was preemptive decisive action.






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